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From: "Francisco J Ballesteros" <nemo@lsub.org>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] echo -n
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 20:16:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8ccc8ba40611201116r89eba04m32cf9d487a02ceb5@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ee9e417a0611201049x6d11b221x5d8395a3cbac8ae9@mail.gmail.com>

Isn´t it that a write of zero bytes should just not write, instead
of meaning a write of zero bytes?

Or did I miss something?


On 11/20/06, Russ Cox <rsc@swtch.com> wrote:
> > Why is read from a closed pipe not considered an error, though?
>
> The same reason that reading from the end of a disk file is not an error.
> Try running your program reading /dev/null instead of a pipe.
>
> >         close(fd[0]);
> >         for(int i=0; i<5; i++){
> >                 n = read(fd[1], buf, 8);
> >                 print("%d: read %ld bytes: %r\n", i, n);
> >         }
> > produces:
> >         0: read 0 bytes:
> >         1: read 0 bytes:
> >         2: read 0 bytes:
> >         3: read -1 bytes: i/o on hungup channel
> >         4: read -1 bytes: i/o on hungup channel
> > where I expected errstr to be set on the first read after pipe
> > closure.
>
> Errstr is only set when a system call returns -1.
>
> > Is there really no way to immediately determine that a
> > pipe has been closed?  Why would read be so implemented?
>
> It's a clumsy hack to work around exactly this problem.
> It's not read in general that is implemented this way,
> just the read implementation for pipes and network data files.
>
> The only real solution is to change the interface so that
> end-of-file is not signaled by a zero-length read.  But that
> convention is far too entrenched to go anywhere any time soon.
>
> Russ
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-20 19:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-20  8:40 arisawa
2006-11-20  9:45 ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-20 10:42   ` lucio
2006-11-20 17:35     ` maht
2006-11-20 12:46 ` Russ Cox
2006-11-20 14:41   ` John Stalker
2006-11-20 14:59     ` Dave Lukes
2006-11-20 14:59     ` Axel Belinfante
2006-11-20 15:34       ` ron minnich
2006-11-20 15:43       ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-20 16:37   ` Joel Salomon
2006-11-20 18:49     ` Russ Cox
2006-11-20 19:16       ` Francisco J Ballesteros [this message]
2006-11-20 19:57         ` Joel Salomon
2006-11-20 20:18           ` Federico Benavento
2006-11-20 20:38           ` Russ Cox
2006-11-20 21:00             ` Joel Salomon
2006-11-20 21:05             ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2006-11-20 21:55               ` Russ Cox
2006-11-20 22:11                 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2006-11-20 22:24                   ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-20 23:14                   ` Gorka guardiola
2006-11-20 23:22                     ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2006-11-20 23:57                       ` Gorka guardiola
2006-11-21  3:24               ` lucio
2006-11-20 19:32       ` Joel Salomon

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