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From: "Francisco J Ballesteros" <nemo@lsub.org>
To: lucio@proxima.alt.za,
	"Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] About 9P ...
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 16:45:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8ccc8ba40706230745o50b1daf2ob558d6f0cdb835ef@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1182608849.24170.90.camel@simple>

Note that

if (stat()){
   open
   read
   close
}

is not new code. It's code in ls, 8c, mk, acme, etc. etc. etc.
The point is how to make that code work nicely across bad latency links.
But you do not want to change that code.

Also, there's no overhead if you don't use our stuff while "within the
building".

On 6/23/07, Lucio De Re <lucio@proxima.alt.za> wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 15:36 +0200, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote:
>
> >
> > Now, say you have a program that does:
> > if (stat(afile)){
> >    open(afile)
> >    read(afile)
> >    close(afile)
> > }
> >
> So those are 9P's bad manners.  How many such idioms can one subsume
> into a "caching" process?  Because in my opinion it makes more sense, as
> I understand to have been Russ and Sape's proposal, to provide a
> sliding-window version of the above that sends all of them at once:
>
>         if (stat(afile), open(afile), read(afile), close(afile)) {
>           ...
>         } else {
>           perror ("");
>         }
>
> Somehow, we may need to differentiate the error return and it sure looks
> like programmers need to be aware of this implementation technique, but
> is it preferable to construct a specialised cache that knows to generate
> a get() whenever a stat() is performed?  The latter doesn't really scale
> to other potential scenarios and may add unwanted overheads.
>
> ++L
>
>
>


  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-23 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-19 20:11 Philippe Anel
2007-06-20  0:37 ` Russ Cox
2007-06-20  2:06   ` Roman Shaposhnick
2007-06-20 11:29     ` Anthony Sorace
2007-06-22  0:32 ` Derek Fawcus
2007-06-22  6:58   ` Philippe Anel
2007-06-22 15:57     ` Derek Fawcus
2007-06-22 20:32       ` Philippe Anel
2007-06-22 21:10         ` David Leimbach
2007-06-22 21:35           ` Philippe Anel
2007-06-22 21:46             ` David Leimbach
2007-06-22 21:55               ` Philippe Anel
2007-06-22 22:25                 ` Philippe Anel
2007-06-22 22:57                   ` David Leimbach
2007-06-22 23:01                     ` Anant Narayanan
2007-06-23  4:30                   ` Russ Cox
2007-06-23  5:10                     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-06-23  9:25                       ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-06-23 15:50                         ` Martin Atkins
2007-06-23  6:24                     ` Philippe Anel
2007-06-23 15:00                     ` Rob Pike
2007-06-24  0:52                     ` [9fans] 9P optimization Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-06-24  3:04                       ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-06-24  3:15                         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-06-24  4:08                           ` ron minnich
2007-06-24  9:34                             ` Steve Simon
2007-06-24 10:06                               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-06-24 11:38                                 ` Steve Simon
2007-06-24 13:34                                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-06-25  0:34                                     ` ron minnich
2007-06-25 17:53                                       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-06-25  1:02                                 ` Dave Eckhardt
2007-06-24 12:14                             ` erik quanstrom
2007-06-24 13:36                               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-06-24 21:47                                 ` erik quanstrom
2007-06-25 17:48                                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-06-25 18:46                                     ` erik quanstrom
2007-06-24  4:16                           ` Bruce Ellis
2007-06-24 18:05                             ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-06-22 23:20               ` [9fans] About 9P Skip Tavakkolian
2007-06-22 23:48                 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-06-23  0:27                   ` Roman Shaposhnick
2007-06-23  0:27                     ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-06-23 12:08                   ` erik quanstrom
2007-06-23 12:27                     ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-06-23 12:57                     ` Lucio De Re
2007-06-23 13:01                     ` Uriel
2007-06-23 13:36                       ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-06-23 14:27                         ` Lucio De Re
2007-06-23 14:45                           ` Francisco J Ballesteros [this message]
2007-06-22 21:16         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-06-22 21:37           ` Philippe Anel

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