From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7d3530220907151000s60671d2gfdb18cdf12c55097@mail.gmail.com> References: <87r5wivc8s.fsf@plap.localdomain> <20090715132212.6c3cc544.eekee57@fastmail.fm> <3BBB12CF4EFF4040B38542759379E3CD0278ED@XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz> <20090715164459.a40763e6.eekee57@fastmail.fm> <7d3530220907151000s60671d2gfdb18cdf12c55097@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:24:56 +0200 Message-ID: <8ccc8ba40907151124g726f40dem613c7c7d124e109d@mail.gmail.com> From: Francisco J Ballesteros To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] Why does Acme only show text? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 217a9d3e-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 This is funny: O/live supports both images and text. *but* It's been months ago that I do not use it any longer to display images but only for text. That way I may have more screen surface for text. Would the same happen to acme? Or perhaps it's me. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:00 PM, John Floren wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis= wrote: >> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:32:09 +0200 >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> > =C2=A0I also take issue with the statement "Acme is a text editor," t= hat never sounds right, no more than describing Emacs as >>> > =C2=A0a text editor. It's natural to use Acme as a text editor and it= provides many more text-editing facilities than Rio >>> > =C2=A0does, but it is also natural to use it as a file manager, shell= window provider, email client, etc, etc. >>> > =C2=A0It provides more than Rio and it does it all with tiling window= s and without menus, but that's just style. >>> >>> I always thought of using Acme as 'The' UI for Plan 9, much in the Ober= on way. I'm not a techie, but I use Plan 9 since 2000, or so, as my main OS= . I would *way* love having graphics in Acme, asi it IS a great UI, IMHO. >> >> As-is it's actually not a great UI for me, but perhaps with some small c= hanges it could be. I'm still thinking those changes over. >> > > Acme is the worst editor/environment, except for all the others. > > Sometimes it seems cluttered and confusing, but then I realize that's > because it has more files open than I would even try on emacs, merely > because switching around between emacs buffers is slower and less > convenient. Speaking of which, I recently discovered that emacs (on X, > at least) is now capable of running a terminal which can in turn run > vi or console-mode emacs. OT but madness. Now I want to run sam in > acme. > > Eric and myself, and I think maybe Ron, are using acme and acme-sac to > interact with a BlueGene/P system. I write code in acme, then use a > guide file to run the various scripts I need to connect to the > frontend node and launch jobs, then use win to telnet into the > individual nodes and run tests. The real advantage comes from the > "Local" command and the way windows are managed/output is handled. > > I'd really like to see acme get support for graphical programs, > although right now I'm content enough as things stand. > > > John > -- > "I've tried programming Ruby on Rails, following TechCrunch in my RSS > reader, and drinking absinthe. It doesn't work. I'm going back to C, > Hunter S. Thompson, and cheap whiskey." -- Ted Dziuba > >