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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@coraid.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Google search of the day
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:27:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8dfdbb11d09c26a8525146b0ad45d26d@coraid.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10011d262a8868a1773f7b7f7b9c9d57@csplan9.rit.edu>

>
> It's a proper denial of service on Plan 9... I ran it while
> cpu'd into another box and found that somehow it killed *both*
> machines. IIRC, Plan 9 doesn't really have any kind of resource
> limiting, does it? (Yeah, I know, not necessary for a terminal,
> but it should be important for a cpu server)
>

this is a problem for unix and plan 9.  as soon as you try resource
limiting, you have a new way to dos a machine.  force the hostowner
(or root) to use up his allotment.  okay, the unix guys have thought
of this and so they limit the number of ssh connections.  the problem
is that if you access as root to the box is via ssh, you're still done.
i don't see an easy systematic solution to this type of problem.

as was discussed a few months ago, any system that has unreserved
stack allocation can suffer from similiar problems.  the oom killer
on linux is a symptom of this kind of problem.

- erik


  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-14 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-13 22:03 [9fans] quote " erik quanstrom
2008-02-13 23:08 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-13 23:24 ` [9fans] Google search " dave.l
2008-02-13 23:31   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-13 23:41     ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-13 23:49       ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-13 23:59     ` john
2008-02-14  0:04       ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-14  6:11         ` Anant Narayanan
2008-02-15 17:39         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-02-14 16:45       ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-14 17:09         ` john
2008-02-14 17:27           ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2008-02-15  9:50             ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-15 11:49               ` Alf
2008-02-15 13:15               ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-15 14:56                 ` Brantley Coile
2008-02-15 15:44                   ` Eris Discordia
2008-02-15 16:07                     ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-15 16:43                       ` maht
2008-02-15 17:35                         ` ron minnich
2008-02-15 18:14                           ` Iruata Souza
2008-02-15 18:37                           ` maht
2008-02-15 17:39                       ` Eris Discordia
2008-02-15 19:05                         ` maht
2008-02-15 20:11                           ` Eris Discordia
2008-02-15 20:18                             ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-15 20:49                             ` maht
2008-02-16 23:32                               ` Eris Discordia
2008-02-15 23:37                         ` [9fans] Non-stack-based calling conventions Lyndon Nerenberg
2008-02-15 23:39                           ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-15 23:47                             ` Paweł Lasek
2008-02-16  0:23                               ` Brantley Coile
2008-02-16 23:32                                 ` Eris Discordia
2008-02-16 23:41                                   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-16 23:49                                   ` Brantley Coile
2008-02-17  0:04                                   ` Brantley Coile
2008-02-17 13:30                                     ` Eris Discordia
2008-02-17 15:04                                       ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-17 21:43                                         ` Uriel
2008-02-17 23:58                                           ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-18  1:54                                             ` Bruce Ellis
2008-02-18  3:43                                               ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-18  4:31                                                 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-02-18  4:40                                                   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-18  6:22                                               ` Robert William Fuller
2008-02-18  7:23                                                 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-02-18  8:38                                                   ` Anant Narayanan
2008-02-22 10:02                                                     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-22 19:35                                                       ` Anant Narayanan
2008-02-18  8:30                                                 ` Anant Narayanan
2008-02-18  8:44                                                   ` Bruce Ellis
2008-02-18 18:50                                                 ` Federico G. Benavento
2008-02-18 21:53                                                   ` Lorenzo Fernando Bivens de la Fuente
2008-02-18 22:55                                                     ` y i y u s
2008-02-18 23:46                                                       ` Uriel
2008-02-18 22:14                                                   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-18 22:16                                                     ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-18 22:32                                                       ` Federico G. Benavento
2008-02-20 11:39                                                   ` maht
2008-02-20 17:19                                                     ` Bruce Ellis
2008-02-22 10:02                                                     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-22 10:02                                                   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-18 22:13                                                 ` LiteStar numnums
2008-02-18  4:44                                             ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-18  4:46                                               ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-18  5:03                                                 ` Uriel
2008-02-17 16:08                                       ` Anthony Sorace
2008-02-17 22:03                                         ` Charles Forsyth
2008-02-22 10:01                                       ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-22 14:07                                         ` Iruata Souza
2008-02-22 10:01                                     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-22 10:01                                 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-16  8:29                               ` Lluís Batlle
2008-02-17 23:09                                 ` Chad Dougherty
2008-02-18 21:50                                 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-22 10:02                                 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-26 21:30                               ` Paweł Lasek
2008-02-26 22:00                                 ` maht
2008-02-26 22:32                                   ` Brantley Coile
2008-02-26 23:15                                     ` Uriel
2008-02-26 22:33                                   ` Brantley Coile
2008-02-26 22:46                                     ` Bruce Ellis
2008-02-27  4:26                                 ` lucio
2008-02-27  6:52                                   ` ron minnich
2008-02-27 17:57                                     ` lucio
2008-02-28  9:33                                     ` Bill Gunshannon
2008-02-28  9:58                                       ` Charles Forsyth
2008-02-28 14:15                                       ` Bill Gunshannon
2008-02-14 17:14         ` [9fans] Google search of the day Eris Discordia
2008-02-14 17:28           ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2008-02-14 20:14             ` Eris Discordia
2008-02-14 20:30               ` Patrick Kristiansen
2008-02-14 20:38                 ` Eris Discordia
2008-02-14 22:09                   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-15  9:00                     ` Eris Discordia
2008-02-14 17:51           ` Iruata Souza
2008-02-15  9:31             ` sqweek
2008-02-18  9:48               ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-18  9:57                 ` Gorka Guardiola
2008-02-19  9:17                 ` sqweek

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