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From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] pc boot and ether drivers
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 23:53:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <90434074e615c95c1ad55afb9f6687eb@plan9.bell-labs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ee9e417a041117200113ea6134@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:11:42 -0500, jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com
<jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com> wrote:
> It's mostly historic and most of the reasons have gone away.
> Sharing code with the current 9load code would be more trouble
> than it's worth. There are ideas for doing a better job by
> rewriting the bootstrap altogether, but who knows if/when it
> will ever be done.

By 'rewriting the bootstrap altogether' I would make it go away
altogether and use the kernel to boot another kernel. We can do this
already but some of the details are a bit messy and a tidy up and
re-organisation would be a good idea; this is likely to fall out
of something else I hope to be doing soon. How you get the first
(bootstrap) kernel into memory could be the same as now, using
whatever methods you like - Plan 9 MBR/PBS, Grub, LILO, LinuxBIOS,
PXE, whatever.

On Wed Nov 17 20:29:00 EST 2004, ericvh@gmail.com wrote:
> ...
> We have enough to do without having to worry about
> writing boot loaders.
> 
>           -eric

Agreed.

On Wed Nov 17 23:01:38 EST 2004, russcox@gmail.com wrote:
> the boot process is crappy enough.
> let's not make it crappier.

Agreed.

--jim


  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-18  4:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-17  1:55 Tim Newsham
2004-11-17  2:09 ` geoff
2004-11-17  2:11 ` jmk
2004-11-18  0:54   ` Vester Thacker
2004-11-18  1:28     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2004-11-18  2:32       ` Karl Magdsick
2004-11-18  2:43         ` geoff
2004-11-18  3:09           ` Tim Newsham
2004-11-18  3:16             ` geoff
2004-11-18  3:54               ` Tim Newsham
2004-11-18  4:01                 ` Russ Cox
2004-11-18  4:53                   ` jmk [this message]
2004-11-18  6:04                     ` Vester Thacker
2004-11-18 10:39                       ` C H Forsyth
2004-11-18 11:45                         ` Vester Thacker
2004-11-18  7:10                 ` geoff
2004-11-18  4:16               ` bs
2004-11-18  3:40             ` Russ Cox
2004-11-18  4:26           ` Vester Thacker
2004-11-18  4:34             ` Vester Thacker
2004-11-18 16:23             ` Ronald G. Minnich
2004-11-18 15:08     ` Ronald G. Minnich

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