From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <90494ce6a6a1e08e2983023e02b2ce70@plan9.escet.urjc.es> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] plan 9 ports to unix (including libdraw) From: Fco.J.Ballesteros In-Reply-To: <5551b6dfb79934c8033b35ae14b86a7e@caldo.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-dyyipvvntzfqtjijhulngirabr" Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:45:03 +0200 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 739605ee-eacc-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-dyyipvvntzfqtjijhulngirabr Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit regarding robustness, I'd say venti and fossil are robust. At least, we did suffer more problems with the worm that we have with venti&fossil. --upas-dyyipvvntzfqtjijhulngirabr Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Mon Oct 20 10:34:41 MDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D14F919A91; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 04:34:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 574C119A02; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 04:34:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1DA0C19AF3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 04:33:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lavoro.home.cs.york.ac.uk (public1-york1-5-cust44.leed.broadband.ntl.com [80.0.45.44]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A04E319A00 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 04:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5551b6dfb79934c8033b35ae14b86a7e@caldo.demon.co.uk> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] plan 9 ports to unix (including libdraw) From: Charles Forsyth In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-emjsnszfkbrcdiqprjiyimiusy" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:29:37 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-emjsnszfkbrcdiqprjiyimiusy Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i'd put fossil+venti on a separate machine from a general cpu server, much as with the old file server. that way you can give it lots of memory all to itself, for cache, and you are much less likely to suffer unpleasantness (because a random program exhausts memory for instance or trips over something in the system). i'd have thought the auth could happily coexist, though: they are small, fairly easily bounded as to the resource requirements, and are unlikely to cause much trouble. --upas-emjsnszfkbrcdiqprjiyimiusy Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu> Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for forsyth@caldo.demon.co.uk id 1ABPMT-0006x2-G0; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:01:34 +0000 Received: from [130.203.4.6] (helo=mail.cse.psu.edu) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1ABPMT-0006x2-G0 for forsyth@caldo.demon.co.uk; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:01:34 +0000 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5098119B2A; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EA53919B4B; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:01:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EC0B719B18; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:00:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 825B919AA2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] plan 9 ports to unix (including libdraw) From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <0c737f73c143cf69bebede3c337acd1a@plan9.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:01:12 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > We need help. We're falling further behind in supported devices. We > could use a real browser. We need better C++ support (someone to > really finish dave hogan's gnu work). Rsc and I have discussed some > possible projects to keep us going with a small number of people: First of all, we need a robust file server! I want to shift our file server to fossil+venti, however, I'm still hasitating. This is because: 1) there are some negative experiences the users report. 2) no clear document to describe how to install it. 3) Is it really safe to use it as fossil+venti+auth server on one machine? Etec, etc Kenji --upas-emjsnszfkbrcdiqprjiyimiusy-- --upas-dyyipvvntzfqtjijhulngirabr--