From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <92e92cc631c99b8b7918fac54c801ec4@coraid.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] MS Research reinvents Inferno? From: Brantley Coile Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:39:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: <283f5df10512130826u1fd2f19ahf71d310e0b6b7ff3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-dcnclsyqknwwsyhlddaqrltfil" Topicbox-Message-UUID: c2acf79c-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-dcnclsyqknwwsyhlddaqrltfil Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I note that the paper didn't reference any other Plan 9'ish things other than Inferno. Not having read the paper I assume that it is an Inferno like thing. I wonder then, why they don't reference Wirth's and Gutknecht's Oberon system? Rob did. --upas-dcnclsyqknwwsyhlddaqrltfil Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by coraid.com; Tue Dec 13 11:26:55 EST 2005 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2065D5B937 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:26:54 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5283063357 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:26:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04165-01-77 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:26:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BAEA5C7F08 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:26:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i30so921154wra for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:26:22 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Qo28XndUrxPjaFzvbwG+BmP8AvJed8qFiySnci94DgKJDNMVr0PXQex3TeU7YjREZRpW/II4y8JrsMxdFzV0f5FYUkfaSJaix3KwS8QwzkdzGGitB1Ana7UPNzgqVHJY4vGsLok6luDbi6l5ls/3tvOqZ1n2Sl5h7U51IGEQhFQ= Received: by 10.54.143.19 with SMTP id q19mr1258413wrd; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:26:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.73.2 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:26:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <283f5df10512130826u1fd2f19ahf71d310e0b6b7ff3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:26:20 -0500 From: LiteStar numnums To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] MS Research reinvents Inferno? In-Reply-To: <126a2f7d0512130426g575169e4v8a349a9a35c5f855@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6119_22013222.1134491180005" References: <6bec4c2e9eee6a9e5369a0e693dd51b0@9netics.com> <126a2f7d0512130426g575169e4v8a349a9a35c5f855@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+brantley=coraid.com@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+brantley=coraid.com@cse.psu.edu ------=_Part_6119_22013222.1134491180005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Let's see, first there was the Cyclone clone (Vault C), now there is a Plan9-ish/EROS-ish kernel... Before all of this was "Active Directory" (Kerberos/LDAP)... The 'research' seems to be focused upon many things already released into the wild & brining them to the point of being 'Microsoft' products... -- Stefan On 12/13/05, Sergey Zhilkin wrote: > > Microsoft reinventing the wheels since 1980 :) > Any sources of Sing ? > Inferno IS better :) and also OpenSource :) > > On 12/13/05, Skip Tavakkolian <9nut@9netics.com> wrote: > > I'm not sure if this is old news to you all. It's something > > that MS Research calls 'Singularity'. > > > > ftp://ftp.research.microsoft.com/pub/tr/TR-2005-135.pdf > > > > and a some interviews with the (re)inventors here: > > > > http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=3D68302 > > http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=3D141858 > > > > > -- Nietzsche's first step is to accept what he knows. Atheism for him goes without saying and is "contructive and radical". Nietzsche's supreme vocation, so he says, is to provoke a kind of crisis and a final decision about the problem of atheism. The world continues on its course at random and there i= s nothing final about it. Thus God is useless, since He wants nothing in particular. If he wanted something -- and here we recognize the traditional forumlation of the problem of evil -- He would have to assume responsiblity for "a sum total of pain and inconsistency which would debase the entire value of being born." -- Albert Camus, L'Homme r=E9volt=E9 ------=_Part_6119_22013222.1134491180005 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Let's see, first there was the Cyclone clone (Vault C), now there is a Plan= 9-ish/EROS-ish kernel...
Before all of this was "Active Directory" (Kerberos/LDAP)...
The 'research' seems to be focused upon many things already released into t= he wild &
brining them to the point of being 'Microsoft' products...
 -- Stefan

On 12/13/05, Sergey Zhilkin <szhilkin@gmail.com> wrote:
Microsoft reinventing the wheels since 1980 :)
Any sources of Sing ?
= Inferno IS better :) and also OpenSource :)

On 12/13/05, Skip Tavakk= olian <9nut@9netics.com> wrot= e:
> I'm not sure if this is old news to you all. It's something
>= ; that MS Research calls 'Singularity'.
>
> ftp://ftp.research.microso= ft.com/pub/tr/TR-2005-135.pdf
>
> and a some interviews with the (re)inventors here:
= >
> http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=3D68302
> http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=3D141858
>
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Nietzsche's first st= ep is to accept what he knows. Atheism for him goes without saying and is &= quot;contructive and
radical". Nietzsche's supreme vocation, so he says, is to provoke = a kind of crisis and a final decision about the
problem of atheism. The = world continues on its course at random and there is nothing final about it= . Thus God=20
is useless, since He wants nothing in particular. If he wanted somethin= g -- and here we recognize the traditional
forumlation of the problem of= evil -- He would have to assume responsiblity for "a sum total of pai= n and inconsistency
which would debase the entire value of being born."
-- Albert = Camus, L'Homme r=E9volt=E9 ------=_Part_6119_22013222.1134491180005-- --upas-dcnclsyqknwwsyhlddaqrltfil--