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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] critique of sockets API
Date: Tue,  9 Jun 2009 14:59:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <93b18d47a6e4af99d306a91208ec1553@quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0906081807350.385@tank.cs.indiana.edu>

On Tue Jun  9 14:50:58 EDT 2009, bpisupat@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
> Interesting read:
> http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2009/6/28495-whither-sockets/fulltext
>
> If I am right, the filesystem based networking interface offered by Plan 9
> has the three limitations discussed here:
> * performance overhead: app requesting data from a socket typically needs
> to perform 2 system calls (select/read or alt/read)

alt — which is not required — is not a system call.  only a read or write is
required.

> * lack of an "kernel up-call API": which allows the kernel to inform an
> app each time network data is available

plan 9 uses synchronous i/o, so this statement doesn't make sense
in plan 9.  you can use threads to do i/o asynch w.r.t. your application,
but the i/o itself is still synchronous w.r.t. the kernel.

> * hard to implement "multi homing" with support for multiple network
> interfaces

i have no idea how this relates to the use of a fs in implementing the
network stack.  why would using a filsystem (or not) make any difference
in the ability to multihome?

by the way, plan 9 beats the pants off anything else i've used for multiple
network / interface support.  it's support for mulitple ip stacks is quite
neat.

- erik



  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-09 18:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-09 18:49 Bhanu Nagendra Pisupati
2009-06-09 18:59 ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2009-06-09 22:11 ` Russ Cox
     [not found] <mailman.998.1244574121.1513.9fans@9fans.net>
2009-06-09 23:20 ` Bhanu Nagendra Pisupati
2009-06-09 23:24   ` J.R. Mauro
2009-06-09 23:33   ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-06-10  3:33     ` Gary Wright
2009-06-10  0:07   ` erik quanstrom
2009-06-10  0:34     ` erik quanstrom
2009-06-11  7:07     ` Eris Discordia
     [not found] <mailman.1007.1244590421.1513.9fans@9fans.net>
2009-06-10 22:50 ` Bhanu Nagendra Pisupati
2009-06-11 12:34   ` erik quanstrom
     [not found] <mailman.1.1244635201.19660.9fans@9fans.net>
2009-06-10 23:46 ` Bhanu Nagendra Pisupati
2009-06-11 12:16 erik quanstrom
     [not found] <b0a72b5826eb44300d3603f585859910@quanstro.net>
2009-06-11 14:54 ` Eris Discordia
2009-06-11 18:24   ` erik quanstrom
2009-06-11 21:21     ` Eris Discordia
2009-06-11 23:41       ` erik quanstrom
2009-06-12  4:32         ` Paul Lalonde
2009-06-12  7:19         ` Eris Discordia
     [not found]     ` <D9FE8C51EE2D568C05E555DD@192.168.1.2>
2009-06-11 23:34       ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-06-12  7:21         ` Eris Discordia
     [not found] <mailman.1.1244808001.26495.9fans@9fans.net>
2009-06-13  1:39 ` Bhanu Nagendra Pisupati

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