From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 References: <643973b9c0074170145322ddf82ea07c@gmx.de> <87ca50213f6c6d2bae4e45e0327c9fef@kw.quanstro.net> <20130525135828.GA93918@intma.in> <2a810e5901ddf3cbde877071719c103e@kw.quanstro.net> In-Reply-To: <2a810e5901ddf3cbde877071719c103e@kw.quanstro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <9406F4AD-427A-462F-B751-74A22C3A1630@lsub.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Francisco J Ballesteros Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 21:21:31 +0200 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] broken floating point exceptions and fpregs Topicbox-Message-UUID: 5c5b00ee-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 did not publish it yet, but we have what=20 could be called a nix mark II, comes with a new mount table and a fossil speaking 9pix, plus a new scheduler.=20 It does not have al the stuff like graphics in the modified mark I nix=20 you have, but, the new stuff should be easy to use on it.=20 give us a bit more time and we will put=20 the new bits somewhere.=20 hth On May 25, 2013, at 5:02 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Sat May 25 09:59:39 EDT 2013, khm-9@intma.in wrote: >> On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 09:47:05AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: >>>=20 >>> why don't we just let the 386 kernel rest in peace and use >>> 64-bit for sse? >>=20 >> Let's all go buy new computers instead of using the ones we have? >=20 > x86_64 has been around since 2003, and on nearly every x86 machine for > the last 8 years. sse2 has been around since 2001. there is not a large > percentage of currently-running x86 machines that have sse2 but do not hav= e > x64-bit extensions, and this percentage is generally decreasing. >=20 > i put sse2 in the 386 kernel a few years ago, before the compilers support= ed > it. this was to support a linuxemu project. the linux tools needed sse. >=20 > however, when it came to putting sse2 into a general kernel=E2=80=94and th= at > includes answering questions cinap is posing, like how do we deal with > different abis in the debugger, etc.=E2=80=94it seemed more disruption tha= n it > was worth. now that the 64-bit kernel is real, and supports even low-end > hardware like atom, i would rather concentrate on making > the 64-bit kernel better. >=20 > - erik