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Some may read more > of the signal. > > Otherwise 9front folks couldn't care less about being recognized by a > website.=C2=A0 Nothing would change or improve if that happened.=C2=A0 Th= e only > ones who objectively suffer in the current situation is newcomers who > aren't properly informed by a website on the options they have if they > want to run a "Plan 9". Basically this. P9f just doesn't mention 9front, and that should change=20 imo, to better reflect the whole Plan 9 ecosystem. The same way p9p=20 should be mentioned (or is it?) > I personally don't see an issue with 9front and 9legacy continuing to > be their own things.=C2=A0 Different people have different ideas for what > they want to make out of their Plan 9 and sometimes their ideas are > simply incompatible. > > I'd like to see people communicate and exchange ideas and/or code more > effectively but this will always remain in the hands of individuals > who decide how to socialise and what to work on. 100% my opinion. Don't make a canonical 1P9, just let people explore=20 their ideas. Like, even 9gridchan had it's own "fork", if you want to=20 call it like that. sirjofri ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9ef6430f3025e731-Md3590= 9f62414b2dc634f2a8f Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription