From: lucio@proxima.alt.za
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc on plan9
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 07:49:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <94d4f063290f3647219f9faa33a48e75@proxima.alt.za> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44873A72.7010407@lanl.gov>
> It's a tough thing to do. And, I agree, Linux seems to all about
> emulating windows nowadays. Gross.
A quick philosophical point. Microsoft/Windows is a religion, in the
sense of an organised hierarchy of authority with a deity (real or
imaginary) on top and the worshippers at the bottom. The accolytes
are privvy to secrets they use to keep the masses from questioning the
religious dogma that keeps the system going. Microsoft more or less
stumbled in this position the way Christianity did and adjusted to
suit.
The Red-Hat did the same. Etc.
Should Plan 9 do the same, wittingly? I vote against, but
intellectually, not with Darwinian survival of the fittest in mind.
Also, I don't think one can do this rationally, too much depends on
grasping and fulfilling the needs of the underlying community without
compromising authority.
++L
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2006-06-07 17:58 Corey
2006-06-07 18:24 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-07 18:50 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-07 18:55 ` William Josephson
2006-06-07 20:12 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-07 20:20 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-07 20:42 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-07 20:44 ` William Josephson
2006-06-07 21:00 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-07 19:05 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-07 20:13 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-07 20:48 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-07 21:04 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-08 6:42 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2006-06-08 7:00 ` Iruatã Souza (muzgo)
2006-06-07 19:48 ` Corey
2006-06-07 20:16 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-07 20:26 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-07 20:43 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-08 5:49 ` lucio [this message]
2006-06-07 18:57 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2006-06-07 19:55 ` Corey
2006-06-07 20:46 ` rog
2006-06-07 21:07 ` Corey
2006-06-07 21:16 ` Christoph Lohmann
2006-06-07 21:25 ` Rodolfo (kix)
2006-06-07 21:50 ` Corey
2006-06-07 21:54 ` David Leimbach
2006-06-07 21:56 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-07 22:06 ` Lluís Batlle i Rossell
2006-06-07 22:16 ` David Leimbach
2006-06-07 22:31 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2006-06-07 22:33 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-08 9:44 ` Victor Nazarov
2006-06-09 21:13 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-08 1:28 ` quanstro
2006-06-09 13:12 ` Lluís Batlle
2006-06-09 13:21 ` quanstro
2006-06-09 13:47 ` Lluís Batlle
2006-06-07 23:04 ` geoff
2006-06-07 23:10 ` Steve Simon
2006-06-08 0:22 ` Bakul Shah
2006-06-08 0:27 ` geoff
2006-06-08 3:31 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-08 15:04 ` David Leimbach
2006-06-08 15:20 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-07 23:15 ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-06-08 0:17 ` geoff
2006-06-09 21:15 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-09 21:26 ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-06-09 21:27 ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-06-09 21:34 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-09 21:38 ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-06-09 21:44 ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-06-10 6:57 ` "Nils O. Selåsdal"
2006-06-08 1:58 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2006-06-08 0:53 ` geoff
2006-06-08 1:07 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2006-06-08 1:15 ` quanstro
2006-06-08 15:02 ` David Leimbach
2006-06-09 4:04 ` quanstro
2006-06-08 1:22 ` geoff
2006-06-08 1:25 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2006-06-09 21:21 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-09 21:27 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-08 14:59 ` David Leimbach
2006-06-09 4:05 ` quanstro
2006-06-08 1:39 ` [9fans] quantity vs. quality Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-06-08 3:05 ` Dan Cross
2006-06-08 3:44 ` Joel Salomon
2006-06-08 7:03 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2006-06-09 22:03 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-09 22:44 ` David Leimbach
2006-06-09 22:46 ` quanstro
2006-06-09 22:51 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2006-06-09 22:55 ` quanstro
2006-06-09 23:19 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2006-06-09 23:29 ` quanstro
2006-06-10 1:57 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2006-06-09 23:51 ` quanstro
2006-06-10 0:10 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-10 2:31 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2006-06-10 0:45 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-10 3:01 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2006-06-10 0:52 ` quanstro
2006-06-10 1:04 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-10 23:13 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-11 0:44 ` quanstro
2006-06-11 5:08 ` lucio
2006-06-11 10:09 ` quanstro
2006-06-11 12:00 ` lucio
2006-06-11 22:59 ` quanstro
2006-06-11 23:26 ` geoff
2006-06-12 3:45 ` Paul Lalonde
2006-06-12 20:16 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-12 20:23 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-12 20:56 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-12 21:09 ` Victor Nazarov
2006-06-13 0:05 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2006-06-12 21:15 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2006-06-13 12:08 ` rog
2006-06-13 16:34 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-06-13 21:35 ` "Nils O. Selåsdal"
2006-06-14 22:09 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-15 15:46 ` Victor Nazarov
2006-06-11 5:42 ` Russ Cox
2006-06-11 10:08 ` quanstro
2006-06-12 1:03 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2006-06-10 23:05 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-11 0:00 ` quanstro
2006-06-10 0:24 ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-06-10 0:36 ` quanstro
2006-06-10 2:27 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2006-06-10 0:23 ` quanstro
2006-06-10 0:41 ` Paul Lalonde
2006-06-10 0:59 ` quanstro
2006-06-10 1:15 ` Paul Lalonde
2006-06-10 5:19 ` Bruce Ellis
2006-06-10 2:51 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2006-06-10 0:45 ` quanstro
2006-06-10 3:10 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2006-06-10 0:53 ` quanstro
2006-06-10 23:06 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-10 23:15 ` geoff
2006-06-11 2:58 ` jmk
2006-06-10 23:04 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-11 0:05 ` quanstro
2006-06-10 23:03 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-09 23:25 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-09 23:38 ` David Leimbach
2006-06-09 23:45 ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-06-09 23:46 ` Paul Lalonde
2006-06-10 23:03 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-10 23:02 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-11 0:12 ` quanstro
2006-06-11 2:20 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-11 22:31 ` David Leimbach
2006-06-10 0:28 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-09 21:29 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-09 21:34 ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-06-08 1:49 ` [9fans] gcc on plan9 Ignacio Torres Masdeu
2006-06-08 14:10 ` David Leimbach
2006-06-09 4:09 ` quanstro
2006-06-09 5:25 ` David Leimbach
2006-06-07 22:39 ` Corey
2006-06-07 22:49 ` Paul Lalonde
2006-06-07 23:17 ` Corey
2006-06-07 23:37 ` Paul Lalonde
2006-06-08 0:50 ` quanstro
2006-06-08 1:16 ` John Barham
2006-06-08 14:51 ` David Leimbach
2006-06-09 4:49 ` ems
2006-06-09 12:07 ` quanstro
2006-06-09 19:17 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-09 21:27 ` Bakul Shah
2006-06-09 21:33 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2006-06-09 21:39 ` quanstro
2006-06-09 21:56 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2006-06-09 22:01 ` quanstro
2006-06-09 22:17 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2006-06-09 22:35 ` quanstro
2006-06-09 22:22 ` Bakul Shah
2006-06-09 22:30 ` quanstro
2006-06-09 23:22 ` Bakul Shah
2006-06-10 13:51 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2006-06-10 23:21 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-11 0:07 ` LiteStar numnums
2006-06-10 0:00 ` Harri Haataja
2006-06-10 0:03 ` Bruce Ellis
2006-06-10 1:00 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-10 4:37 ` Iruatã Souza (muzgo)
2006-06-12 0:35 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2006-06-09 21:43 ` quanstro
2006-06-10 12:43 ` rog
2006-06-07 22:56 ` Christoph Lohmann
2006-06-07 23:08 ` Dan Cross
2006-06-07 23:32 ` Federico G. Benavento
2006-06-07 23:48 ` Dan Cross
2006-06-08 0:32 ` Corey
2006-06-08 1:04 ` jmk
2006-06-08 3:35 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-08 3:51 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-08 4:07 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2006-06-08 5:19 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-08 6:07 ` Federico G. Benavento
2006-06-08 17:45 ` Micah Stetson
2006-06-08 18:54 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-08 18:55 ` Iruatã Souza (muzgo)
2006-06-08 18:56 ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-06-08 19:01 ` Iruatã Souza (muzgo)
2006-06-09 19:56 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-09 22:19 ` quanstro
2006-06-09 23:19 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-08 4:11 ` Paul Lalonde
2006-06-08 5:25 ` ems
2006-06-08 5:43 ` Simon Williams
2006-06-08 6:09 ` Bruce Ellis
2006-07-16 15:17 ` ASCII Glenda (was Re: [9fans] gcc on plan9) csant
2006-07-16 22:17 ` e.c.sharpe
2006-07-16 22:37 ` Jack Johnson
2006-07-17 8:35 ` Rodolfo (kix)
2006-06-08 1:06 ` [9fans] gcc on plan9 geoff
2006-06-08 1:21 ` quanstro
2006-06-08 10:15 ` Victor Nazarov
2006-06-08 9:40 ` Lluís Batlle
2006-06-08 15:55 ` Corey
2006-06-08 22:48 ` Fred Wade
2006-06-08 23:08 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-08 23:51 ` Corey
2006-06-07 20:46 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2006-06-07 19:07 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-07 19:17 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2006-06-07 19:26 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-07 19:35 ` Brantley Coile
2006-06-07 20:15 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-07 20:32 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-07 19:47 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2006-06-07 20:00 ` Corey
2006-06-07 20:13 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-07 20:40 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-08 6:49 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2006-06-07 21:21 ` Christoph Lohmann
2006-06-07 21:49 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-06-07 22:50 ` Dan Cross
2006-06-08 7:08 cej
2006-06-08 9:18 ` quanstro
2006-06-08 11:58 ` rog
2006-06-09 4:20 ` quanstro
2006-06-08 17:20 ` Corey
2006-06-09 4:00 ` quanstro
2006-06-09 12:40 ` Corey
2006-06-09 13:15 ` quanstro
2006-06-09 15:10 ` Corey
2006-06-09 15:27 ` C H Forsyth
2006-06-09 15:39 ` David Leimbach
2006-06-09 15:37 ` quanstro
2006-06-09 14:52 ` lucio
2006-06-09 18:42 ` quanstro
2006-06-09 21:12 ` David Leimbach
2006-06-10 5:28 ` lucio
2006-06-10 1:36 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-06-10 16:32 ` David Leimbach
2006-06-08 7:24 cej
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