From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 09:25:00 +0100 From: Eris Discordia To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-ID: <970551641B57BC6070158BA7@[172.16.10.224]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [9fans] sad commentary Topicbox-Message-UUID: d1a15916-ead3-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > Having said that, but for web browsing, I'm quite > happy using Plan 9 as an end user that mostly writes code, slides, and > docs and reads mail. I mean, I use it not just to modify it. This does not > mean I cannot use others as well. It's fine, if you're fine with it ;-) Do you ever visit any AJAX enabled websites? Do you consider AJAX a superfluous technology? Do you switch to your "other OS" machine--or reboot your current machine--if and when you visit GMail's pages (at least to enable IMAP access for the first time)? What's your opinion on good ol' non-standard CSS? Won't you ever want to use one of these new "content delivery" systems, such as Microsoft Silverlight or Adobe Flash? Do you sometimes need to write an XML document? Do you need to validate it? Do you need to transform it? Are you going to write or port each and every application you need for doing so? All these could "theoretically" become "supported" (that's different from being "included") in an OS if it manages to gather enough public momentum. Without that you can do only your "serious" stuff which excludes quite some of the "good" stuff. Public momentum comes from providing "the public" with enough incentive so that a small portion of that public actually writes what the rest will need. Incidentally, I find it a bit hypocritical to do "research" (read: find out how a system can Get New Jobs Done (tm)) on a system but turn to another whenever one actually needs to Get Something Done (tm). --On Tuesday, July 01, 2008 1:17 AM +0200 Francisco J Ballesteros wrote: > Many of the ideas have been/will be applied to other > systems, and that will affects end users as well. It's just that there's > no need to use the same system for doing research and for, say, > browsing the web. > > Having said that, but for web browsing, I'm quite > happy using Plan 9 as an end user that mostly writes code, slides, and > docs and reads mail. I mean, I use it not just to modify it. This does not > mean I cannot use others as well. >