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From: stanley lieber <sl@9front.org>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 14:36:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <97b4156d-9350-42c2-a573-3a6fe0ea80e9@email.android.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGGHmKH1eZJEaOqh45UufZMsFEc10TFGHSR73LTzdAofU-y6wQ@mail.gmail.com>

Steven Stallion <sstallion@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 1:40 AM, Kurt H Maier <khm@sciops.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:52:31PM -0700, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
>>> > plan 9 as more than a masturbatory aid.
>>>
>>> put up or shut up:
>> ...
>> Congratulations on your accomplishments!
>
>% fn ck { grep $* /n/sources/patch/*/email /n/sources/patch/^(applied
>maybe saved sorry)^/*/email >[2]/dev/null |wc -l}
>% ck sstallion@gmail.com
>     28
>% ck khm@sciops.net
>      0
>
>Perhaps it's better to be known for the occasional masturbatory
>session than for being an incorrigible troll.
>
>Steve

What's incorrigible is the way you people consistently reply to questions from newbs with claims that it is trivial to do various tasks on Plan 9 without ever quite revealing that 1.) it isn't, and 2.) you aren't really referring to the task they suggested, anyway. Skip does this, Every. Single. Time. What is the point?

What do you use that rpi "cluster" for, Skip? Do you mean to imply some the availability of some facility for process migration? You know none exists.

The latest amusing evolution is a parade of replies from the usual suspects where it's never quite clear which of them are promoting or denigrating the degraded web-centric nature of modern computing. First various ribbons and medals associated with historic Plan 9 campaigns are displayed and then the same noble campaigners suggest that Plan 9 users are cave men clinging to stone tools. I think the quips are so clever precisely because their target is indeterminate. Great, you're funny, but again, what is the point?

How does any of this clarify matters for interested newbs?

My personal favorite aspect of this tiresome dance is the eventual denunciation of trolls. Here, in the spiritual home of Mark V Shaney!

The problem is not trolling. The problem is low to medium quality trolling, performed by armchair quarterbacks who want credit for being Plan 9 Gandalfs but who are unwilling to provide the simple service of speaking in words that make sense. Mothra forbid any should cast aspersions upon the sacred world wide web,
bringer of the paycheck and dresser of the tongue.

Kurt provides free hosting for the 9front mercurial repository, after Google found better things to do with their time. Thanks, Kurt.

sl








  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-31 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-23  0:00 Adriano Verardo
2016-08-23  0:14 ` Winston Kodogo
2016-08-23  0:29   ` Adriano Verardo
2016-08-24  0:53     ` Winston Kodogo
2016-08-24  8:51       ` Adriano Verardo
2016-08-24 11:55         ` Brantley Coile
2016-08-24 13:00           ` Nickolas Peter
2016-08-24 13:10             ` Brantley Coile
2016-08-24 13:54               ` Nickolas Peter
2016-08-26  0:38                 ` Kim Shrier
2016-08-28 23:46                   ` erik quanstrom
2016-08-26 16:28           ` Richard Miller
2016-08-23  0:16 ` Steve Simon
2016-08-23  0:25   ` Adriano Verardo
2016-08-23  2:14 ` Staven
2016-08-23  5:30   ` tlaronde
2016-08-23  6:06     ` Andrew Nazarov
2016-08-23  7:05       ` David Walther
2016-08-23 19:52         ` Kurt H Maier
2016-09-15 10:02           ` David Walther
     [not found]             ` <CAEVxPTMusObVM6YwcbUcbZeEk227Urwefpik7r8ifZRx0ux1pg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <CAEVxPTNNg+LZEXnNLNG68RYui-kb_7AQpTO6ud=pHfSp6d9T5w@mail.gmail.com>
2016-09-15 17:38                 ` Jules Merit
2016-08-23  9:01       ` Costin Chirvasuta
2016-08-23  9:46         ` tlaronde
2016-08-23 11:56           ` hiro
2016-08-23 12:39           ` Adriano Verardo
2016-08-23 14:00             ` Peter Hull
2016-08-23 14:21               ` David du Colombier
2016-08-23 17:52                 ` Don Bailey
2016-08-23 18:06                   ` stanley lieber
2016-08-23 18:11                     ` Brantley Coile
2016-08-23 18:29                       ` stanley lieber
2016-08-23 20:11                         ` Jules Merit
2016-08-28 23:52                         ` erik quanstrom
2016-08-23 18:29                       ` Jules Merit
2016-08-23 19:51                       ` Adriano Verardo
2016-08-23 20:51                       ` Steven Stallion
2016-08-23 21:32                         ` Steve Simon
2016-08-23  7:54   ` Brantley Coile
2016-08-23 19:26 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2016-08-23 19:32   ` stanley lieber
2016-08-28 23:51     ` erik quanstrom
2016-08-30 16:26   ` michaelian ennis
2016-08-30 17:01     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2016-08-30 17:34       ` Kurt H Maier
2016-08-30 18:41       ` Jules Merit
2016-08-30 18:54         ` Eduardo Alvarez
2016-08-30 19:05           ` Jules Merit
2016-08-30 19:36           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2016-08-30 21:41             ` hiro
2016-08-30 21:58               ` Steven Stallion
2016-08-30 22:02                 ` Kurt H Maier
2016-08-30 22:10                   ` Steven Stallion
2016-08-30 22:07                 ` hiro
2016-08-30 22:10             ` Chris McGee
2016-08-30 22:18               ` Eduardo Alvarez
2016-08-30 22:22                 ` Chris McGee
2016-08-30 22:26                   ` cinap_lenrek
2016-08-31  0:51                   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2016-08-31  1:35                     ` Chris McGee
2016-08-31  2:08                     ` Winston Kodogo
2016-08-31  2:11                       ` Winston Kodogo
2016-09-15 20:37                         ` Bryan Harris
2016-08-31  3:48                     ` Kurt H Maier
2016-08-31  5:52                       ` Skip Tavakkolian
2016-08-31  6:40                         ` Kurt H Maier
2016-08-31  7:58                           ` Brantley Coile
2016-08-31 17:55                           ` Steven Stallion
2016-08-31 18:36                             ` stanley lieber [this message]
2016-08-31 20:59                               ` Skip Tavakkolian
2016-08-31 21:36                                 ` stanley lieber
2016-09-01  2:53                                   ` Winston Kodogo
2016-09-01  7:54                                     ` Julius Schmidt
2016-09-01 23:01                                       ` Winston Kodogo
2016-09-01  9:21                                 ` fgergo
2016-08-31 19:03                             ` Kurt H Maier
2016-08-31 14:04                   ` Eduardo Alvarez
     [not found] <741901743.1038803.1471983485978.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2016-08-23 20:18 ` Brian L. Stuart

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