From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: <20160831034806.GB19159@wopr> <957d9161a8fd44eb4411d5bf173ae80b@9netics.com> <20160831064010.GE19159@wopr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 From: stanley lieber Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 14:36:09 -0400 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-ID: <97b4156d-9350-42c2-a573-3a6fe0ea80e9@email.android.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive Topicbox-Message-UUID: 9acb4716-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Steven Stallion wrote: >On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 1:40 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:52:31PM -0700, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: >>> > plan 9 as more than a masturbatory aid. >>> >>> put up or shut up: >> ... >> Congratulations on your accomplishments! > >% fn ck { grep $* /n/sources/patch/*/email /n/sources/patch/^(applied >maybe saved sorry)^/*/email >[2]/dev/null |wc -l} >% ck sstallion@gmail.com > 28 >% ck khm@sciops.net > 0 > >Perhaps it's better to be known for the occasional masturbatory >session than for being an incorrigible troll. > >Steve What's incorrigible is the way you people consistently reply to questions= from newbs with claims that it is trivial to do various tasks on Plan 9 = without ever quite revealing that 1.) it isn't, and 2.) you aren't really= referring to the task they suggested, anyway. Skip does this, Every. Sin= gle. Time. What is the point? What do you use that rpi "cluster" for, Skip? Do you mean to imply some t= he availability of some facility for process migration? You know none exi= sts. The latest amusing evolution is a parade of replies from the usual suspec= ts where it's never quite clear which of them are promoting or denigratin= g the degraded web-centric nature of modern computing. First various ribb= ons and medals associated with historic Plan 9 campaigns are displayed an= d then the same noble campaigners suggest that Plan 9 users are cave men = clinging to stone tools. I think the quips are so clever precisely becaus= e their target is indeterminate. Great, you're funny, but again, what is = the point? How does any of this clarify matters for interested newbs? My personal favorite aspect of this tiresome dance is the eventual denunc= iation of trolls. Here, in the spiritual home of Mark V Shaney! The problem is not trolling. The problem is low to medium quality trollin= g, performed by armchair quarterbacks who want credit for being Plan 9 Ga= ndalfs but who are unwilling to provide the simple service of speaking in= words that make sense. Mothra forbid any should cast aspersions upon the= sacred world wide web, bringer of the paycheck and dresser of the tongue. Kurt provides free hosting for the 9front mercurial repository, after Goo= gle found better things to do with their time. Thanks, Kurt. sl