RE: [9fans] troff problem

RE: [9fans] troff problem

[cej]

sorry, i forgot to write this:

-Tdest   Prepare output for typesetter dest:

-Tutf     (The default.) PostScript printers with preprocessing to handle Unicode characters encoded in UTF
-Tpost    Regular PostScript printers
-T202     Mergenthaler Linotron 202

++pac.

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From: Geoff Collyer [mailto:geoff@collyer.net] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:28 AM
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: RE: [9fans] troff problem


No, troff's output is not postscript.

See /sys/lib/lp/bin/lpscratch; apparently it's not mounting your spool subtree correctly.


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RE: [9fans] troff problem

[Geoff Collyer]

-T doesn't cause troff to generate postscript either:

	; date | troff -Tpost
	x T post
	x res 720 1 1
	x init
	V0
	p1
	x font 1 R
	x font 2 I
	x font 3 B
	[...]

Look into why lpscratch isn't mounting your /lp or /n/other/lp or
whatever.

Re: [9fans] troff problem

[Sape Mullender]

> Sape Mullender <sape@plan9.bell-labs.com> writes:
>
>> nearly every machine has enough ram to use ramfs for temporaries.
>> I advice replacing mounting other by starting ramfs (If it's not already
>> running).
>
> Somthing like "ramfs && mkdir /tmp/lp"? Or should I use another
> location?

The simplest thing is to mkdir /sys/lib/lp/tmp
end edit /sys/lib/lp/bin/lpscratch, leaving only the first line #!/bin/rc.

Re: [9fans] troff problem

[Matthias Teege]

Sape Mullender <sape@plan9.bell-labs.com> writes:

> nearly every machine has enough ram to use ramfs for temporaries.
> I advice replacing mounting other by starting ramfs (If it's not already
> running).

Somthing like "ramfs && mkdir /tmp/lp"? Or should I use another
location?

Matthias

Re: [9fans] troff problem

[mirtchov]

>> This shows that lp expects a filesystem named ``other'' on the file server;
>> see /sys/lib/lp/bin/lpscratch and look for other.
>>
>> Probably a fix would be to hack /sys/lib/lp/bin/lpscratch
>
> Indeed.  This is a leftover from the days when we used another file system
> to avoid getting leftover temporary files in the daily dump.  These days,
> nearly every machine has enough ram to use ramfs for temporaries.
> I advice replacing mounting other by starting ramfs (If it's not already
> running).
>
> 	Sape

we went through this once already:

	http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&threadm=Pine.LNX.4.44.0306271304260.32274-100000%40fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca&rnum=3&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dlp%2Bmirtchov%2Bgroup:comp.os.plan9%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26safe%3Doff%26scoring%3Dd%26selm%3DPine.LNX.4.44.0306271304260.32274-100000%2540fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca%26rnum%3D3

here's my fix:

	plan9% diff /sys/lib/lp/bin/lpscratch /n/sources/plan9/sys/lib/lp/bin/lpscratch
	20,21c20
	< 	SCRATCHFILESYSTEM=''
	<
	---
	> 	SCRATCHFILESYSTEM=other
	plan9% echo $fileserver
	plan9
	plan9%

cheers, andrey

Re: [9fans] troff problem

[Sape Mullender]

> This shows that lp expects a filesystem named ``other'' on the file server;
> see /sys/lib/lp/bin/lpscratch and look for other.
>
> Probably a fix would be to hack /sys/lib/lp/bin/lpscratch

Indeed.  This is a leftover from the days when we used another file system
to avoid getting leftover temporary files in the daily dump.  These days,
nearly every machine has enough ram to use ramfs for temporaries.
I advice replacing mounting other by starting ramfs (If it's not already
running).

	Sape

Re: [9fans] troff problem

[Fco.J.Ballesteros]

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Yep. You'd better edit /sys/lib/bin/lpscratch to avoid mounting other.

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From: Matthias Teege <matthias-9fans@mteege.de>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] troff problem
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:55:39 +0100
Message-ID: <868ym9519a.fsf@gic.mteege.de>

Fco.J.Ballesteros <nemo@plan9.escet.urjc.es> writes:

> setup your fileserver environment variable
> so that 9fs $fileserver could mount it.
> lp will try to mount it and it seems that
> 9fs kfs does not work for you (using fossil?)

I use a old style fileserver. I set $fileserver to the name of my
fileserver and try the following:

term% mntgen
term% 9fs $fileserver
term% troff -ms hello.ms | lp -dstdout > hello.ps
mount: mount /n/batidaother: attach -- unknown user or failed authentication
cannot mount /n/batidaother filesystem
term%

Hmm, there must be another problem to.

Thanks
Matthias

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Re: [9fans] troff problem

[Axel Belinfante]

> term% mntgen
> term% 9fs $fileserver
> term% troff -ms hello.ms | lp -dstdout > hello.ps
> mount: mount /n/batidaother: attach -- unknown user or failed authentication
> cannot mount /n/batidaother filesystem

This shows that lp expects a filesystem named ``other'' on the file server;
see /sys/lib/lp/bin/lpscratch and look for other.

Could the problem be that you use a real (non-kfs) file server
that does not have a filsys other?

Probably a fix would be to hack /sys/lib/lp/bin/lpscratch .


Axel. (who seems to remember encountering this problem too)

Re: [9fans] troff problem

[Matthias Teege]

"Skip Tavakkolian" <fst@centurytel.net> writes:

> troff -ms /sys/doc/utf.ms | aux/tr2post > /tmp/utf.ps

Ok, that works for me to.
Matthias

Re: [9fans] troff problem

[Matthias Teege]

Fco.J.Ballesteros <nemo@plan9.escet.urjc.es> writes:

> setup your fileserver environment variable
> so that 9fs $fileserver could mount it.
> lp will try to mount it and it seems that
> 9fs kfs does not work for you (using fossil?)

I use a old style fileserver. I set $fileserver to the name of my
fileserver and try the following:

term% mntgen
term% 9fs $fileserver
term% troff -ms hello.ms | lp -dstdout > hello.ps
mount: mount /n/batidaother: attach -- unknown user or failed authentication
cannot mount /n/batidaother filesystem
term%

Hmm, there must be another problem to.

Thanks
Matthias

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Re: [9fans] troff problem

[Fco.J.Ballesteros]

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setup your fileserver environment variable
so that 9fs $fileserver could mount it.
lp will try to mount it and it seems that
9fs kfs does not work for you (using fossil?)

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From: Matthias Teege <matthias-9fans@mteege.de>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: [9fans] troff problem
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:17:17 +0100
Message-ID: <86k75ujfto.fsf@gic.mteege.de>

Moin,

I've tried to "compile" a troff document with
term% troff -ms hello.ms | lp -dstdout > hello.ps

but I get:

srv: dial net!kfs!9fs: cs: can't translate address: dns: resource does not exist
mount: can't open /srv/kfs: '/srv/kfs' file does not exist
cannot mount /n/kfs filesystem

What do I missing?
Matthias

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RE: [9fans] troff problem

[Skip Tavakkolian]

> See /sys/lib/lp/bin/lpscratch; apparently it's not mounting your spool
> subtree correctly.

Is there a reason not to bypass lp altogether in this case?  I've been happy
doing this:

troff -ms /sys/doc/utf.ms | aux/tr2post > /tmp/utf.ps

Lp seems to assume a lot.

RE: [9fans] troff problem

[cej]

really,troff -ms -Tpost complains about not finding the file
/sys/lib/troff/font/devpost/DESC
actually, whole 'devpost' dir is missing (on my box, at least)

++pac.


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RE: [9fans] troff problem

[Charles Forsyth]

>>absolutely not; if you can get away without using lp, so much the
>>better.

perhaps lp ought to be on the public projects list

RE: [9fans] troff problem

[Geoff Collyer]

absolutely not; if you can get away without using lp, so much the
better.

RE: [9fans] troff problem

[Geoff Collyer]

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No, troff's output is not postscript.

See /sys/lib/lp/bin/lpscratch; apparently it's not mounting your spool
subtree correctly.

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From: <cej@gli.cas.cz>
To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: RE: [9fans] troff problem
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:23:28 +0100
Message-ID: <ACCF003CBA3D09458207DB0CB86AD17D124C3F@XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz>


think that this would suffice:
term% troff -ms hello.ms  > hello.ps


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthias Teege [mailto:matthias-9fans@mteege.de] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:17 AM
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: [9fans] troff problem


Moin,

I've tried to "compile" a troff document with
term% troff -ms hello.ms | lp -dstdout > hello.ps

but I get:

srv: dial net!kfs!9fs: cs: can't translate address: dns: resource does not exist
mount: can't open /srv/kfs: '/srv/kfs' file does not exist cannot mount /n/kfs filesystem

What do I missing?
Matthias

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RE: [9fans] troff problem

[cej]

think that this would suffice:
term% troff -ms hello.ms  > hello.ps


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthias Teege [mailto:matthias-9fans@mteege.de] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:17 AM
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: [9fans] troff problem


Moin,

I've tried to "compile" a troff document with
term% troff -ms hello.ms | lp -dstdout > hello.ps

but I get:

srv: dial net!kfs!9fs: cs: can't translate address: dns: resource does not exist
mount: can't open /srv/kfs: '/srv/kfs' file does not exist cannot mount /n/kfs filesystem

What do I missing?
Matthias

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[9fans] troff problem

[Matthias Teege]

Moin,

I've tried to "compile" a troff document with
term% troff -ms hello.ms | lp -dstdout > hello.ps

but I get:

srv: dial net!kfs!9fs: cs: can't translate address: dns: resource does not exist
mount: can't open /srv/kfs: '/srv/kfs' file does not exist
cannot mount /n/kfs filesystem

What do I missing?
Matthias

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