From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <9a2ef6463989d7f71dc034687cc333ad@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] plan9 finished In-Reply-To: <200402281300.i1SD0Ipm044920@adat.davidashen.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-vpkbzrjeplmejytneofbsrtbge" Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:22:50 -0500 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 01e4af94-eacd-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-vpkbzrjeplmejytneofbsrtbge Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The kernel is finished modulo drivers. If fairly sure there won't suddenly be > a new scheduler or VM or 9p2005 or a bunch of new syscalls to surprise me. Except we've had two major rewrites of the scheduler in the last 6 months... --upas-vpkbzrjeplmejytneofbsrtbge Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Sat Feb 28 08:07:40 EST 2004 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Sat Feb 28 08:07:37 EST 2004 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 159B819C5C; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:07:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9958719C5C; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:07:21 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 415A719C61; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:06:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from adat.davidashen.net (unknown [217.113.20.242]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 99D5B19C38 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:06:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from adat.davidashen.net (localhost.davidashen.net [127.0.0.1]) by adat.davidashen.net (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i1SD0Iki044921 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 17:00:18 +0400 (AMT) (envelope-from dvd@adat.davidashen.net) Received: (from dvd@localhost) by adat.davidashen.net (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id i1SD0Ipm044920 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 17:00:18 +0400 (AMT) From: David Tolpin Message-Id: <200402281300.i1SD0Ipm044920@adat.davidashen.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] plan9 finished In-Reply-To: <124b0b2bd6fb1fcc201f7e7ff1d33d5f@juice.thebigchoice.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 17:00:18 +0400 (AMT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on psuvax1.cse.psu.edu X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: > >> When I said I tell people plan9 is finished I mean "complete" not "dead". > > >Do you think there is a difference between complete and dead? > > I prefer to think of it as stable and predictable. > The kernel is finished modulo drivers. If fairly sure there won't suddenly be > a new scheduler or VM or 9p2005 or a bunch of new syscalls to surprise me. > > I think people want to be sure in their time investment. If they see that > someone is *still* fiddling with the kernel then if they put 6 months into > learning the OS http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/ will still be there at > the end of it. > > Personally I'd prefer to think that if I download it today I won't have to be > downloading updates every week for the rest of my days that break all my > efforts to date. > > Personally I would still use plan9 if everyone else stopped, I'm sure plenty > of us here feel the same. So, what is the difference between a complete and a dead? --upas-vpkbzrjeplmejytneofbsrtbge--