From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <9ab217670703211317o1958d9b3u647f6ac4fac758cd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:17:12 -0400 From: "Devon H. O'Dell" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [9fans] Update on Fossil+Venti Stuff Topicbox-Message-UUID: 2b567ccc-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 I think everybody is a little confused about Fossil and Venti interaction. When I started this project, it was under the idea that Fossil was essentially a cache. It stored stuff, and when it either got too full or something else, it would start writing files out to Venti. As I've been copying files over to my machine, I've noticed Fossil get fuller and fuller, but not sync anything over to Venti. Upon attempting to find information about this, we came up with: http://www.mail-archive.com/9fans@cse.psu.edu/msg03210.html Bruce doesn't sound too happy here, and since Plan 9 doesn't have any version control or any commit logs (that I'm aware of), I can't tell whether any of these bugs have been fixed. Or, if so, whether they've been released. As my Fossil fills from 15 to 30 GB out of 35GB (with 180GB in my current Venti arena), I don't want to take this chance. My ideal usage of Fossil+Venti was to use it as expandable, persistent storage for my music. I'm finding out that this idea won't work because Venti exists as expandable archival storage. Which implies that files have to be deleted from Fossil before they'll end up in Venti. This would be fine with me, however, it seems that, by doing this, there's no way to get all of my mp3s listed in a single directory -- they would be archived by snapshot date / number, and I'd have to search through all of those to get a full list of music. This isn't really what I want. I could have probably saved myself a lot of suffering had I realized this sooner. Though, I just seem to recall a couple people doing this type of set-up, so I wonder what I'm doing wrong. Either way, I rarely delete files, and that seems to be the only way to get them into Venti. Or maybe I'm just missing things altogether. If there is a way to do what I'm wanting with Venti and Fossil, I'd love to see it. This isn't really a bitching and moaning and whining session, because this realization is probably more my fault for not researching enough, but regardless, I'd like to see something that can do what I'm looking for in the future, whether I have to write it myself or not. I guess this is sort of a probe as to how many people would find this useful versus not (versus already possible and I'm just dense). --Devon