From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:15:08 -0400 Message-ID: From: Brad Frank To: 9fans@9fans.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] Booting plan9 on intel macs Topicbox-Message-UUID: 11005110-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 What kinds of modifications would be necessary to get plan9 booting on intel macs? The latest releases don't seem to boot, they just hang. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:20:03 -0400 Message-ID: <9ab217670906290920hfa68ae6xd3735ae0db5ddec7@mail.gmail.com> From: "Devon H. O'Dell" To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Booting plan9 on intel macs Topicbox-Message-UUID: 1103f34c-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 2009/6/29 Brad Frank : > What kinds of modifications would be necessary to get plan9 booting on > intel macs? The latest releases don't seem to boot, they just hang. EFI, at a minimum. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab217670906290920hfa68ae6xd3735ae0db5ddec7@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab217670906290920hfa68ae6xd3735ae0db5ddec7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:28:58 -0700 Message-ID: <3e1162e60906291028w9c999a1rb85cfe8c68ade2fe@mail.gmail.com> From: David Leimbach To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750ed5c76e091046d80063d Subject: Re: [9fans] Booting plan9 on intel macs Topicbox-Message-UUID: 11213c90-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --00151750ed5c76e091046d80063d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > 2009/6/29 Brad Frank : > > What kinds of modifications would be necessary to get plan9 booting on > > intel macs? The latest releases don't seem to boot, they just hang. > > EFI, at a minimum. > > What of rEFIt or Boot Camp? They have BIOS support. --00151750ed5c76e091046d80063d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Devon H= . O'Dell <devon.odell@gmail.com> wrote:
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> intel macs? The latest releases don't seem to boot, they just hang= .

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--00151750ed5c76e091046d80063d-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3e1162e60906291028w9c999a1rb85cfe8c68ade2fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab217670906290920hfa68ae6xd3735ae0db5ddec7@mail.gmail.com> <3e1162e60906291028w9c999a1rb85cfe8c68ade2fe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:33:37 -0400 Message-ID: <9ab217670906291033v692716cftdc66f60f0c3699a0@mail.gmail.com> From: "Devon H. O'Dell" To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] Booting plan9 on intel macs Topicbox-Message-UUID: 1128daae-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 2009/6/29 David Leimbach : > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Devon H. O'Dell > wrote: >> >> 2009/6/29 Brad Frank : >> > What kinds of modifications would be necessary to get plan9 booting on >> > intel macs? The latest releases don't seem to boot, they just hang. >> >> EFI, at a minimum. >> > > What of rEFIt or Boot Camp? =A0They have BIOS support. They also demonstrate my negligence of Mac hardware. I might try taking a look at it if I had one. --dho From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lyndon Nerenberg To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> In-Reply-To: <3e1162e60906291028w9c999a1rb85cfe8c68ade2fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab217670906290920hfa68ae6xd3735ae0db5ddec7@mail.gmail.com> <3e1162e60906291028w9c999a1rb85cfe8c68ade2fe@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:11:45 -0600 Message-Id: <1246299105.77647.256.camel@legolas.orthanc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Booting plan9 on intel macs Topicbox-Message-UUID: 115107c2-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 I accidentally installed a FreeBSD drive in my MacBook. To my surprise, it just worked. If you install a boot drive with the "usual" PC disk partitioning the Macs will boot in what seems to be a fairly complete BIOS emulation. How far Plan9 gets is another story, but my guess is that even if it sees the disk controllers properly, it's not going to like the NIC(s). Don't even try to install it on a Mac. Instead, pull the drive and do the install on a normal PC, then stick the drive back into the Mac. This might give you a fighting chance, but it's inevitable you'll be doing driver work before long. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1246299105.77647.256.camel@legolas.orthanc.ca> References: <9ab217670906290920hfa68ae6xd3735ae0db5ddec7@mail.gmail.com> <3e1162e60906291028w9c999a1rb85cfe8c68ade2fe@mail.gmail.com> <1246299105.77647.256.camel@legolas.orthanc.ca> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:20:30 -0400 Message-ID: <3aaafc130906291520l12ee11ecu708141c928c01d53@mail.gmail.com> From: "J.R. Mauro" To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Booting plan9 on intel macs Topicbox-Message-UUID: 115d2b06-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > I accidentally installed a FreeBSD drive in my MacBook. To my surprise, > it just worked. If you install a boot drive with the "usual" PC disk > partitioning the Macs will boot in what seems to be a fairly complete > BIOS emulation. > > How far Plan9 gets is another story, but my guess is that even if it > sees the disk controllers properly, it's not going to like the NIC(s). > > Don't even try to install it on a Mac. Instead, pull the drive and do > the install on a normal PC, then stick the drive back into the Mac. This > might give you a fighting chance, but it's inevitable you'll be doing > driver work before long. > > Just installing rEFIt will be much easier than any of that, assuming plan 9 can handle the hardware. But the intel macs use Broadcom NICs and a weird platform chip for the ambient light sensors and accelerometers, which you'd have to write a driver for. Looking for 'applesmc' would give some examples. I can't think of other weird hardware they might use... aside from discrete video cards, they're mostly intel hardware.