9fans - fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: a@9srv.net
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] x10
Date: Tue,  6 Apr 2004 08:53:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9ce6d910b11b7a355e5f60994fba716b@9srv.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <79b487c902aaae69762c013d51fe580c@juice.thebigchoice.com>

// Just look at the world of Windows. Where is all the
// BSD licensed Windows software?

um, there's not exactly a *ton* of GPL code for Win32, either. some, sure,
but the dearth of both is due, i believe, do the nature of the underlying
system. 

// With no GPL I'm willing to bet that plan9 would not have gone open source...

while i'm not willing to take that bet, i'm not backing it, either. several of
the labs folks have been fighting with lawyers to get as much out the door as
possible for years before the GPL was the force it is today. and i believe the
shift in the lawyers ability to listen is due more to changes in the world at
large than to the GPL (although it likely helped).

that said, you point is probably valid: it's certainly been the case with
various hardware manufacturers that produce drivers for linux that wouldn't
otherwise be likely to give out the info.

anyway, i'm not looking to put down the GPL. it's fine for what it is and
what it does. it's actually *especially* useful for companies producing their
own code, all FUD aside. what strikes me as "bad" is the idea that the GPL
has a moral advantage over BSD/MIT licenses.

anyway, tangential references to plan9 aside, this has gone fairly far off
topic. whatever license you like is fine: if i don't like it, i simply
won't use your stuff. there's always a choice.
ア


       reply	other threads:[~2004-04-06 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <79b487c902aaae69762c013d51fe580c@juice.thebigchoice.com>
2004-04-06 12:53 ` a [this message]
     [not found] <dd6cffdbd632256d61274934f107e4be@9srv.net>
     [not found] ` <7ff77f951d0798f7e9b3695ccbb25275@9netics.com>
2004-04-07  8:07   ` Martin C.Atkins
2004-04-07  8:19     ` Geoff Collyer
2004-04-07 10:16       ` 9nut
2004-04-07 13:39         ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-07 13:36       ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-08  4:38         ` Martin C.Atkins
2004-04-08  4:45           ` Geoff Collyer
2004-04-08  7:04             ` Martin C.Atkins
2004-04-08  7:17               ` Geoff Collyer
     [not found]   ` <f4203830f3fae14acea75d36b5f357ee@9srv.net>
2004-04-08  2:20     ` Joel Salomon
2004-04-08 12:26       ` Brantley Coile
2004-04-08 13:06         ` matt
2004-04-08 13:27           ` Brantley Coile
2004-04-08 13:28           ` Brantley Coile
2004-04-08 21:24             ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-08 13:31           ` Brantley Coile
2004-04-08 21:22           ` boyd, rounin
     [not found] <d9edb6c9f24b0e7f0d49a11389dcf4e4@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp>
     [not found] ` <9d7ff25cc1cb8a187ec626f4ccfe804d@collyer.net>
2004-04-07  4:58   ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-04-07  7:11   ` Martin C.Atkins
2004-04-07  7:30     ` Geoff Collyer
2004-04-07  8:13       ` Martin C.Atkins
2004-04-07 13:28         ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-07 15:29           ` a
2004-04-08  2:13   ` Joel Salomon
     [not found] <81132473206F3A46A72BD6116E1A06AE05617C@black.aprote.com>
2004-04-06 18:03 ` ron minnich
2004-04-06 18:17   ` Derek Fawcus
2004-04-06 18:20     ` ron minnich
2004-04-07  0:30       ` matt
2004-04-06 18:18   ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-06 18:48   ` rog
2004-04-06 18:47     ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-06 20:46     ` Enache Adrian
2004-04-06 23:56       ` Russ Cox
2004-04-07 20:46         ` Enache Adrian
2004-04-07 21:11           ` Geoff Collyer
2004-04-08 20:19             ` Enache Adrian
2004-04-08 20:27               ` Geoff Collyer
2004-04-08 20:29               ` Russ Cox
2004-04-08 20:42                 ` rog
2004-04-08 22:09                 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-08 23:52                   ` Bruce Ellis
2004-04-08  8:54           ` lucio
2004-04-07 13:20       ` Dave Lukes
2004-04-07 13:41         ` matt
2004-04-01  8:45 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-01 13:50 ` Dave Lukes
2004-04-01 14:32   ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-05  5:32     ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-04-05  9:46       ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-05 15:32       ` a

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=9ce6d910b11b7a355e5f60994fba716b@9srv.net \
    --to=a@9srv.net \
    --cc=9fans@cse.psu.edu \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).