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I don't know much about Plan B/Octopus,=20 but it seems the general idea is very similar to what I have in mind. However (you can correct me if I'm wrong), it seems that it is tailored=20 to the Plan B UI, which looks very different to the standard devdraw/rio=20 way of doing UI, so I guess there's quite some work to do. For people who are interested: I played around with the concept some time=20 ago, but I wasn't good at writing filesystems back then. The solution I=20 came up with was rcgui, which is not a full filesystem but just a=20 connection (as a pipe) with a textual interface.=20 https://git.sr.ht/~sirjofri/rcgui In general, I believe that with solid native filesystems and solid native=20 programs many applications can just be shell scripting "glue" between the=20 (descriptive) UI layer and the backend filesystem. For more complex=20 applications devs might want to use the native programming language to=20 write this "glue" or even make it part of the native backend application. One component-based descriptive UI filesystem would open this gate for=20 both approaches and UI designers can mockup their designs very easily. Plan 9 is often about abstracting resources as filesystems, and I believe=20 UI shouldn't be an exception. Devdraw abstracts drawing already, but I=20 think the common way of making/managing/controlling UI can be abstracted,=20 too. sirjofri ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T765c829f434b0f6f-Me7af5= b7e4822047d9bdf27b3 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription