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From: lucio@proxima.alt.za
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 21:04:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e4340ac5bc56c9b9472694cfb15e8c2@proxima.alt.za> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130325164531.GA8743@intma.in>

> I know that the population of 9fans contains a sizeable percentage of
> people who would like to cast Plan 9 in amber, to hold it immutable as
> an example to future generations.  That's an unrealistic expectation.

Maybe, but maybe that's the best we can do, given that the conditions
that gave rise to Plan 9 have long ceased to exist and are unlikely to
recur.  A version of Plan 9 untainted by the predominance of the Intel
and Windows philosophies is needed to reminds us of how things could
have turned out.

But it is all much more complex than a mailing list could possibly
track.  Since the 1970s, it is clear that technology has taken a
number of quantum leaps that could have landed in different places and
all the missed opportunities, good and bad, need to be recorded as
well as explored because we sure as hell are not in the best of all
possible futures, right now.  Unless you're some virtual entity such
as Microsoft, Intel, Google or Facebook and could not care less about
the fate of individuals.

Oops, that's probably a bit rambly, but I think most observers will
understand.

++L




  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-25 19:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-23  9:45 tlaronde
2013-03-23  9:53 ` Richard Miller
2013-03-23  9:56   ` Steve Simon
2013-03-23 21:34     ` tlaronde
2013-03-23 10:05   ` tlaronde
2013-03-23 10:24     ` lucio
2013-03-23 11:40       ` Peter A. Cejchan
2013-03-23 12:25         ` lucio
2013-03-23 16:06         ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-23 16:09           ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-23 16:19             ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-23 16:23               ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-23 16:39                 ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-23 17:15                   ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 17:20                     ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-23 19:29                       ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 19:31                         ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-23 19:34                           ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 19:33                         ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 19:39                           ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-23 19:58                             ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-23 20:11                               ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-24  0:44                         ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-23 17:23                     ` hiro
2013-03-23 17:30                     ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-23 17:44                       ` hiro
2013-03-23 17:52                         ` Nemo
2013-03-23 17:31                     ` hiro
2013-03-23 17:33                     ` hiro
2013-03-23 17:37                     ` tlaronde
2013-03-23 17:55                       ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-23 19:13                         ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-23 19:23                           ` ron minnich
2013-03-23 19:56                             ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-23 23:45                               ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-23 23:58                                 ` Bruce Ellis
2013-03-24  8:49                                 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-24  9:02                                   ` Steve Simon
2013-03-24  9:22                                     ` lucio
2013-03-30 19:49                                 ` ron minnich
2013-03-25 14:45                             ` Nicolas Bercher
2013-03-23 19:17                         ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 19:19                           ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 19:32                           ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-23 19:37                             ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 19:43                               ` Rob Pike
2013-03-24  0:46                                 ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-23 19:45                               ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-25  9:43                               ` [9fans] mk and transitive dependencies (was: gcc not an option for Plan9) dexen deVries
2013-03-25 10:26                                 ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-25 10:33                                   ` hiro
2013-03-25 10:40                                     ` Bence Fábián
2013-03-25 10:42                                       ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-25 11:00                                       ` dexen deVries
2013-03-25 10:40                                     ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-25 10:43                                     ` dexen deVries
2013-03-25 11:02                                       ` [9fans] mk and transitive dependencies (was: gcc not an option lucio
2013-03-25 11:09                                       ` [9fans] mk and transitive dependencies (was: gcc not an option for Plan9) Bence Fábián
2013-03-25 13:30                                         ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-25 11:16                                       ` tlaronde
2013-03-25 11:55                                         ` Charles Forsyth
2013-03-25 12:10                                           ` tlaronde
2013-03-25 20:37                                       ` Steve Simon
2013-03-25 13:35                                   ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-25 14:38                                     ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-25 17:30                                 ` Ori Bernstein
2013-03-23 23:03                           ` [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9 David Leimbach
2013-03-23 19:29                         ` hiro
2013-03-23 17:47                     ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-24  0:41                     ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-24  9:48                     ` tlaronde
2013-03-24 11:56                       ` Dustin Fechner
2013-03-24 12:03                         ` tlaronde
2013-03-23 16:20             ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-23 16:37             ` lucio
2013-03-25  5:48           ` Peter A. Cejchan
2013-03-25  6:27             ` lucio
2013-03-25 16:45               ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-25 19:04                 ` lucio [this message]
2013-03-25 19:19                   ` sl
2013-03-25 19:31                     ` aram
2013-03-25 19:35                       ` sl
2013-03-26 22:01                         ` Bence Fábián
2013-03-26 22:05                           ` sl
2013-03-26 22:17                             ` Bence Fábián
2013-03-25 20:18                       ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-26  4:45                         ` lucio
2013-03-26  6:03                           ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-26  9:44                           ` iainws
2013-03-26 12:07                           ` sl
2013-03-26 12:11                             ` Rubén Berenguel
2013-03-26 12:16                               ` dexen deVries
2013-03-26 12:16                               ` hiro
2013-03-26 12:20                                 ` Rubén Berenguel
2013-03-26 12:57                               ` Charles Forsyth
2013-03-26 13:04                                 ` Rubén Berenguel
2013-03-26  8:28                       ` dexen deVries
2013-03-25 19:38                   ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-25 19:46                     ` lucio
2013-03-25 19:51                       ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-25 19:58                         ` tlaronde
2013-03-25 19:51                     ` sl
2013-03-25 20:13                     ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-26  9:43               ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2013-03-23 17:08         ` hiro
2013-03-25  5:53           ` Peter A. Cejchan
2013-03-23  9:54 ` Peter A. Cejchan
2013-03-23 10:10   ` tlaronde
2013-03-23 10:15     ` Peter A. Cejchan
2013-03-23 12:17 ` Bakul Shah
2013-03-23 12:48   ` lucio
2013-03-25  1:00 Winston Kodogo
2013-03-25  1:20 ` Dan Cross
2013-03-25  1:24   ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-25  1:27     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2013-03-25  1:36   ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-25  1:42     ` Dan Cross
2013-03-25  1:45       ` Jacob Todd
2013-03-25  1:47         ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-25  1:54       ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-25  2:02         ` Dan Cross
2013-03-25  2:08           ` Kurt H Maier

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