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Subject: [9fans] Re: Building GCC
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On Jan 24, 9:39 pm, pietr...@mac.com (Pietro Gagliardi) wrote:
> On Jan 24, 2008, at 2:27 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>
>
>
> > dr. wirth can not be accused of software bloat nor of poor
> > programming.
> > is work is excellent.  the oberon system is so spartian there are
> > no directories.
> > that's just too spartain for me.
>
> I can agree Wirth has improved his ways over the past 20 years, but I
> never got Oberon installed. No directories has not been practiced
> ever to my memory; the closest I can think of off the top of my head
> is the first Macintosh only having directories in / and no
> subdirectories.
>
> > you know, i don't feel like i need to get the world using plan 9.
> > it's enough to change myself.
>
> > - erik
>
> The world doesn't need to use Plan 9 - I doubt there is advertising
> anymore. But if someone else hears about Plan 9 and doesn't want to
> use it because he doesn't find it familiar, he'll probably say the
> same thing. I am perfectly comfortable with Plan 9 the way it is, and
> I enjoy troff, but the rest of the world may think otherwise.
>
> This discussion started with me trying to get GCC to work. Now it's
> run off into about 3,000 different directions and I don't know much
> anymore. I just want to mention that I also tried GCC to see if I
> could build Ruby 1.9.0 with it.

Thinking how to get some piece of alien software work on Plan 9, e.g.
web browser to access the web is certainly not a try of
evangelisation. Web access is normal and legitimate activity and many
people who use  Plan 9 want to access the web and the thing is that it
really does not make any sense to write web browser from the ground
up, if there is a workable version. And it does not mean that people
would use other system instead. So, the initial solution was to use
VNC, it implies network. Now, linuxemu allows to get the result
locally. It is elegant, because you put development effort in one
place and you get many applications work.