From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <59AD4FFD-4628-442F-8D4C-5CE7905CF87D@coraid.com> References: <59AD4FFD-4628-442F-8D4C-5CE7905CF87D@coraid.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 10:38:53 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Leimbach To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd487cc4680cd0493747780 Subject: Re: [9fans] Why not work for a company based on Plan 9? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6ce25fae-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --000e0cd487cc4680cd0493747780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Brantley, I apologize for my confrontational attitude. It's totally unnecessary, and I wish that I could take it all back. You certainly didn't deserve it, and the 9fans aren't deserving the noise I've caused by my stupid approach to this thread. Dave On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Brantley Coile wrote: > dave, > > no problem. i didn't cut and paste the answer, but i'm very sorry that i > gave that impression. i'm a pretty easygoing guy, a fact that isn't obvious > over an email list. i wasn't irritated by the question at all. the > question was a very good one. > > the reason we can't do remote employees is that one of our objectives is > that plan9ers have a positive cultural influence on the entire development > group. i feel such an influence requires daily interaction. but we will > keep you in mind as we grow. > > in all my interactions i try to emulate the gentlemanly ways of dennis > ritchie. > brantley > > On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:55 AM, David Leimbach wrote: > > > Thank you for answering the question. Let me explain my point of view on > the exchange. > > > > I worked for a company in Birmingham AL for about 6 years from Seattle. > I had Birmingham insurance, Birmingham HR people etc, but I was remote. I > thought perhaps it was not clear if one could be a satellite employee for > one of those offices or not. > > > > I felt that when you basically cut and pasted your response to me, that > you were irritated by my question and answering me in a rude way. I was not > trying to troll the thread, but now it may appear to be the opposite. > > > > I have a lot of respect for what you guys have done with Plan 9 and AOE, > and think it's an interesting business, but suddenly I felt that perhaps I > wouldn't have a compatible personality with the boss. > > > > Anyway, I'd like to reboot the discussion, but it's in the archives now > :-). > > > > I do wish you, very sincerely, to have continued success with your > business. > > > > Dave > > > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Brantley Coile > wrote: > > i'm sorry. those who are not in silicon valley or northeast georgia will > have to relocate. > > > > On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:30 AM, David Leimbach wrote: > > > > > That's actually not an answer but whatever... I guess I don't actually > care. > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Brantley Coile > wrote: > > > the positions are in redwood city, ca and athens, ga. > > > > > > On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:17 AM, David Leimbach wrote: > > > > > > > Brantley, > > > > > > > > I'm asking publicly because I'm betting it's a FAQ. Do you consider > remote employees as a possibility, or do you require relocation? > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Brantley Coile > wrote: > > > > hi guys, > > > > > > > > as most on this list know, coraid makes storage devices that use plan > 9 as the software platform. we also use it as our primary development > environment. we still run a ken file server here. plan 9 is fundamental to > our vision. coraid has become a hot silicon valley property and we are > about to start another round of hiring developers. i knew it would be a > disservice to this mailing list if i didn't make an announcement here. > > > > > > > > developers, qa, and support folks can work either in redwood city, ca > or athens, ga. there are the usual up and coming silicon valley startup > stock options. and in athens, you don't have to pay those silicon valley > prices for housing and beer. athens is very affordable on both these > counts, especially the beer as anyone who attended the 2009 iwp9 will > attest. > > > > > > > > i hope we're creating a place that i would have wanted to work. it's > not every place that you can work with plan 9, get paid for it and > participate in a high potential start-up. > > > > > > > > please send resume's to me. > > > > > > > > brantley > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --000e0cd487cc4680cd0493747780 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brantley,

I apologize for my confrontational attitude. = =A0It's totally unnecessary, and I wish that I could take it all back. = =A0

You certainly didn't deserve it, and the 9= fans aren't deserving the noise I've caused by my stupid approach t= o this thread. =A0

Dave

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 1= 0:25 AM, Brantley Coile <brantley@coraid.com> wrote:
dave,

no problem. =A0i didn't cut and paste the answer, but i'm very sorr= y that i gave that impression. =A0i'm a pretty easygoing guy, a fact th= at isn't obvious over an email list. =A0i wasn't irritated by the q= uestion at all. =A0the question was a very good one.

the reason we can't do remote employees is that one of our objectives i= s that plan9ers have a positive cultural influence on the entire developmen= t group. =A0i feel such an influence requires daily interaction. =A0but we = will keep you in mind as we grow.

in all my interactions i try to emulate the gentlemanly ways of dennis ritc= hie.
brantley

On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:55 AM, David Leimbach wrote:

> Thank you for answering the question. =A0Let me explain my point of vi= ew on the exchange.
>
> I worked for a company in Birmingham AL for about 6 years from Seattle= . =A0I had Birmingham insurance, Birmingham HR people etc, but I was remote= . =A0I thought perhaps it was not clear if one could be a satellite employe= e for one of those offices or not.
>
> I felt that when you basically cut and pasted your response to me, tha= t you were irritated by my question and answering me in a rude way. =A0I wa= s not trying to troll the thread, but now it may appear to be the opposite.=
>
> I have a lot of respect for what you guys have done with Plan 9 and AO= E, and think it's an interesting business, but suddenly I felt that per= haps I wouldn't have a compatible personality with the boss.
>
> Anyway, I'd like to reboot the discussion, but it's in the arc= hives now :-).
>
> I do wish you, very sincerely, to have continued success with your bus= iness.
>
> Dave
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Brantley Coile <brantley@coraid.com> wrote:
> i'm sorry. =A0those who are not in silicon valley or northeast geo= rgia will have to relocate.
>
> On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:30 AM, David Leimbach wrote:
>
> > That's actually not an answer but whatever... I guess I don&#= 39;t actually care.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Brantley Coile <brantley@coraid.com> wrote:
> > the positions are in redwood city, ca and athens, ga.
> >
> > On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:17 AM, David Leimbach wrote:
> >
> > > Brantley,
> > >
> > > I'm asking publicly because I'm betting it's a F= AQ. =A0Do you consider remote employees as a possibility, or do you require= relocation?
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Brantley Coile <brantley@coraid.com> wrote:
> > > hi guys,
> > >
> > > as most on this list know, coraid makes storage devices that= use plan 9 as the software platform. =A0we also use it as our primary deve= lopment environment. =A0we still run a ken file server here. =A0plan 9 is f= undamental to our vision. =A0coraid has become a hot silicon valley propert= y and we are about to start another round of hiring developers. =A0i knew i= t would be a disservice to this mailing list if i didn't make an announ= cement here.
> > >
> > > developers, qa, and support folks can work either in redwood= city, ca or athens, ga. =A0there are the usual up and coming silicon valle= y startup stock options. =A0and in athens, you don't have to pay those = silicon valley prices for housing and beer. =A0athens is very affordable on= both these counts, especially the beer as anyone who attended the 2009 iwp= 9 will attest.
> > >
> > > i hope we're creating a place that i would have wanted t= o work. =A0it's not every place that you can work with plan 9, get paid= for it and participate in a high potential start-up.
> > >
> > > please send resume's to me.
> > >
> > > brantley
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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