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From: David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] How would you go about implementing this in Plan9?
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 07:52:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=hybiy0R5B_aKzttmbXGk=faQYbF37KyGsTe0O@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7a892f212376bb182f0c323f8ec320e1@terzarima.net>

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On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Charles Forsyth <forsyth@terzarima.net>wrote:

> >On a system that supports dynamic linking this is trivial.
>
> it's usually error prone, for instance there's no type checking,
> and dangerous: the main application crashes each time a plug-in blows a
> fuse,
> because dynamically loaded things are simply read in to the same protection
> domain.
>

Which is why Google's Chrome runs different tabs in different contexts, to
help prevent bringing down the whole browser due to plugin fragility.


>
> in your particular applications, on modern hardware, i shouldn't think
> have trouble with the overhead of connecting separate processes,
> especially the instant messenger one, but with care in design the
> mediaplayer should work too. after all, in both cases you can't
> send faster than the network, and in the latter you can't display
> faster than humans can see it, so there's quite a bit of slack.
> the main problem in the latter is maintaining a steady flow
> (the EDF scheduling might help you there).
>

The multi-process/service approach makes better use of multiple cores in an
OS than a traditional plugin architecture might with a single thread of
execution.


>
> having said that, plan 9's loader has got support for creating dynamically
> loaded things,
> with type checking. there's a supporting library that provides a reasonable
> interface to it, but that's not part of the distribution.
> if there's not already a copy somewhere i'll dig it out again.
>
> Pretty interesting :-)

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-12-10 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-10  9:34 Eugene Gorodinsky
2010-12-10  9:46 ` Lucio De Re
2010-12-10  9:58   ` hiro
2010-12-10  9:46 ` hiro
2010-12-10 10:01   ` Lucio De Re
2010-12-10 10:30 ` Charles Forsyth
2010-12-10 11:21   ` Eugene Gorodinsky
2010-12-11  1:43     ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2010-12-11 19:02       ` Eugene Gorodinsky
2010-12-10 15:52   ` David Leimbach [this message]
2010-12-10 20:01     ` Eugene Gorodinsky
2010-12-10 20:33       ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-12-11 19:01         ` Eugene Gorodinsky
2010-12-10 11:47 ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-12-10 13:23 ` erik quanstrom

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