From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <59AD4FFD-4628-442F-8D4C-5CE7905CF87D@coraid.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 14:21:17 -0400 Message-ID: From: Nick LaForge To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [9fans] Why not work for a company based on Plan 9? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6cf56fcc-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Sorry. I really need to throw away this **** mobile phone and NOT accidentally hit send in gmail basic. On 10/25/10, Nick LaForge wrote: > On 10/25/10, Joseph Stewart wrote: >> Dave, >> >> The way I see this is two reasonable people working a misunderstanding >> out. >> There are many contemporary examples of endless mud-slinging with no real >> concern for solving problems or coming to a reasonable conclusion. >> >> Regards, >> >> -joe >> >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 1:38 PM, David Leimbach >> wrote: >> >>> Brantley, >>> >>> I apologize for my confrontational attitude. It's totally unnecessary, >>> and >>> I wish that I could take it all back. >>> >>> You certainly didn't deserve it, and the 9fans aren't deserving the >>> noise >>> I've caused by my stupid approach to this thread. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Brantley Coile >>> wrote: >>> >>>> dave, >>>> >>>> no problem. i didn't cut and paste the answer, but i'm very sorry that >>>> i >>>> gave that impression. i'm a pretty easygoing guy, a fact that isn't >>>> obvious >>>> over an email list. i wasn't irritated by the question at all. the >>>> question was a very good one. >>>> >>>> the reason we can't do remote employees is that one of our objectives >>>> is >>>> that plan9ers have a positive cultural influence on the entire >>>> development >>>> group. i feel such an influence requires daily interaction. but we >>>> will >>>> keep you in mind as we grow. >>>> >>>> in all my interactions i try to emulate the gentlemanly ways of dennis >>>> ritchie. >>>> brantley >>>> >>>> On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:55 AM, David Leimbach wrote: >>>> >>>> > Thank you for answering the question. Let me explain my point of >>>> > view >>>> on the exchange. >>>> > >>>> > I worked for a company in Birmingham AL for about 6 years from >>>> > Seattle. >>>> I had Birmingham insurance, Birmingham HR people etc, but I was >>>> remote. >>>> I >>>> thought perhaps it was not clear if one could be a satellite employee >>>> for >>>> one of those offices or not. >>>> > >>>> > I felt that when you basically cut and pasted your response to me, >>>> > that >>>> you were irritated by my question and answering me in a rude way. I >>>> was >>>> not >>>> trying to troll the thread, but now it may appear to be the opposite. >>>> > >>>> > I have a lot of respect for what you guys have done with Plan 9 and >>>> > AOE, >>>> and think it's an interesting business, but suddenly I felt that >>>> perhaps >>>> I >>>> wouldn't have a compatible personality with the boss. >>>> > >>>> > Anyway, I'd like to reboot the discussion, but it's in the archives >>>> > now >>>> :-). >>>> > >>>> > I do wish you, very sincerely, to have continued success with your >>>> business. >>>> > >>>> > Dave >>>> > >>>> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Brantley Coile >>>> wrote: >>>> > i'm sorry. those who are not in silicon valley or northeast georgia >>>> will have to relocate. >>>> > >>>> > On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:30 AM, David Leimbach wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > That's actually not an answer but whatever... I guess I don't >>>> > > actually >>>> care. >>>> > > >>>> > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Brantley Coile >>>> > > >>>> wrote: >>>> > > the positions are in redwood city, ca and athens, ga. >>>> > > >>>> > > On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:17 AM, David Leimbach wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > > > Brantley, >>>> > > > >>>> > > > I'm asking publicly because I'm betting it's a FAQ. Do you >>>> > > > consider >>>> remote employees as a possibility, or do you require relocation? >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Dave >>>> > > > >>>> > > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Brantley Coile < >>>> brantley@coraid.com> wrote: >>>> > > > hi guys, >>>> > > > >>>> > > > as most on this list know, coraid makes storage devices that use >>>> plan 9 as the software platform. we also use it as our primary >>>> development >>>> environment. we still run a ken file server here. plan 9 is >>>> fundamental >>>> to >>>> our vision. coraid has become a hot silicon valley property and we are >>>> about to start another round of hiring developers. i knew it would be >>>> a >>>> disservice to this mailing list if i didn't make an announcement here. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > developers, qa, and support folks can work either in redwood >>>> > > > city, >>>> ca or athens, ga. there are the usual up and coming silicon valley >>>> startup >>>> stock options. and in athens, you don't have to pay those silicon >>>> valley >>>> prices for housing and beer. athens is very affordable on both these >>>> counts, especially the beer as anyone who attended the 2009 iwp9 will >>>> attest. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > i hope we're creating a place that i would have wanted to work. >>>> it's not every place that you can work with plan 9, get paid for it >>>> and >>>> participate in a high potential start-up. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > please send resume's to me. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > brantley >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >