From: Rudolf Sykora <rudolf.sykora@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] troff fonts with special characters
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:38:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTikYKSTX-4JGjeR_AQCNfybuKWwxjggp9ws1jVp9@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AA21D995-23CD-4797-A4B6-A974E080E17F@mail.nanosouffle.net>
On 12 September 2010 20:25, Akshat <akumar@mail.nanosouffle.net> wrote:
> If you like the cleanliness and simplicity of troff files for writing
> papers, and would like to avoid the hideousness of TeX, then you might want
> to try Lout. I ported it to Plan 9 earlier this year and just copied it to
> my contrib: contrib/akumar/lout.tgz
>
>
> Best of luck,
> ak
Thanks for the idea.
Actually I was considering this a while ago. I even printed out the
manual.(I have lout in linux.)
However, from what I read there I gained the feeling that
-- it doesn't know utf (thus you can't really just write a single
letter 'alpha' as you can in troff)
-- it somehow seems to be an 'all together software' (as opposed to
tbl/pic/eqn/...), which I don't like.
-- the syntax for writing math is more complicated than in eqn. The
syntax is rather closer to TeX, which I wanted to avoid, though the
results, I feel, are no better than eqn's.
True, I haven't actually tried the software much. May be that I am
also wrong in some points.
Well, don't take me wrong. I have not much against (plain)TeX. When I
was about 15 and got a printed version of TeXBook, METAFONT, I was
amazed. Its documentation can't be better (nothing to compare to
anything). The algorithms are superior. It's not so big either
(although today's distributions are horrible, >1GB [this I really
hate]; but the core, as someone here is trying to put up, is fine; I
mean KerTeX or what). It's only that troff is even much simpler and
yet good enough. And also that the notation is much more human. Making
a table with tbl or a simple graph with grap is a pleasure. Equations
written for eqn can be read back from the source, without seeing
millions of \\\\\\\.This is, I would say, what totally grabbed me. And
the documentation as written by Kernighan is also awesome --- short,
answers many potential questions right away, explains things clearly.
This is why I also like plan 9, generally (though almost whatever I
try doesn't work). TeX is very 'strict', precise; but you must have a
good knowledge of it to talk it into something. Troff is more
straightforward, simpler, and is more fun, some things are playful,
e.g. traps.
Thanks
Ruda
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-12 19:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-10 12:14 Rudolf Sykora
2010-09-11 19:18 ` Rudolf Sykora
2010-09-11 22:18 ` Russ Cox
2010-09-12 9:25 ` Rudolf Sykora
2010-09-12 18:25 ` Akshat
2010-09-12 19:38 ` Rudolf Sykora [this message]
2010-09-12 20:49 ` Akshat
2010-09-13 14:05 ` Jeff Sickel
2010-09-13 14:28 ` ron minnich
2010-09-13 14:30 ` erik quanstrom
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