From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <94b72a275de4f8e6440aa79508edb7a4@terzarima.net> <8426d01eb3f1d86b5f9e8a50efb3e8c6@ladd.quanstro.net> <4EC7A160-58E6-4798-A2DC-62985F4806A7@gmail.com> <86AA4AF2-71B1-4877-968A-808205F7126F@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:17:23 +1100 Message-ID: From: Bruce Ellis To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] A little more ado about async Tclunk Topicbox-Message-UUID: 744bb2b8-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 There really is a University of Wollongong. The Wollong Group was a Unix team in the 70s. It a coal and steel port city about 50 miles south. And the sprig of Wattle indeed goes to Gorka. brucee On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrot= e: > http://www.olc.edu/~cdelong/jargon-4.4.7/jargon-4.4.7/html/D/deadly-embra= ce.html > > In the case of 9P I believe the concern in context is waiting for > clunks when the server is dead means the waiter will never die. =A0Can > get particularly bad if its actually a communication failure with > bi-directional mounts where both sides can't exit because they can't > talk to each other. =A0Perhaps better explained here: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/9fans@cse.psu.edu/msg03597.html > > also discussed between brucee and russ here: > > http://thedailyreviewer.com/compsys/view/9fans-clunk-clunk-10445370 > > The CSP/Hoare (University of Wollongong, really, is that a joke?) > reference that Brucee made is most likely here: > http://goo.gl/DphA > > although it seems to point to: > Dijkstra, E.W. Cooperating sequential processes. in Programming > Languages =A0 =A0 =A0 ed. =A0 =A0 F. =A0 =A0 =A0Genuys. - - > Academic ~.r.ess, New York, 1968 pp 43-112. > as the first reference to "deadly embrace". > > While I have a bit of insight into what brucee is talking about, all > of these came from google "deadly embrace" and google "deadly embrace > clunk" for the Plan 9 specific references. =A0Its a always a bit of a > pain when brucee is a bit subtle, but its more of a pain when people > are to lazy to even bother searching. > > (reading ahead in the thread, which I was too lazy to do before > searching, I see that Gorka at least bothered to search - he gets the > golden google prize - which I think might be an pickled egg from the > University of Woolongong) > > =A0 =A0 -eric > > > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 3:52 AM, roger peppe wrote: >> if you hate misinformation, why not provide some correct information to >> counter it? i'd hazard a guess that nobody other than you in this thread >> knows what you mean by "deadly embrace". >> >> On 31 Oct 2010 05:47, "Bruce Ellis" wrote: >> >> good call. i just hate misinformation. if there is any more misleading >> trash i will gladly give the offender Morgan's phone number. >> >> brucee >> >> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Nemo wrote: >>> let's call it rumba and go on.... > >