From: Russ Cox <rsc@swtch.com>
To: weigelt@metux.de, Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] opposite of bloom filter
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 17:31:30 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimxw-ua1wrN+AJUyT5tyAbu=osCDO83KONxCfwW@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101113184343.GA17279@nibiru.local>
> I'm currently looking for the opposite of an bloom filter, which
> may have false negatives but no false positives.
>
> The purpose is allowing an spooling (store+forward) mail relay
> to learn which addresses are not accepted by the actual maildrop
> (which is connected by an uucp-link, so no direct smtp chat),
> to get rid of the thousands silly error bounces from brute force
> attacks on email addresses.
>
> An trivial idea would be simply using an hashtable as blacklist,
> but obviously that would become very big. I need a more compact
> form, perhaps a subset of regex'es, a colored (b)tree, etc ?
>
> Any ideas ?
Use a Bloom filter.
You are looking for the opposite of a Bloom filter in order
to ask the question "is this an invalid email address?".
Instead, use a Bloom filter to ask the question
"is this a valid email address?".
This requires the remote uucp site to give you a Bloom
filter with all the valid addresses inserted, but that seems
unavoidable. I don't know how the opposite-of-Bloom-filter
approach would work anyway.
Russ
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-13 22:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-13 18:43 Enrico Weigelt
2010-11-13 22:26 ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2010-11-13 22:48 ` erik quanstrom
2010-11-13 23:10 ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2010-11-14 2:52 ` Bruce Ellis
2010-11-14 2:54 ` Bruce Ellis
2010-11-14 2:56 ` Bruce Ellis
2010-11-13 22:31 ` Russ Cox [this message]
2010-11-13 22:38 ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2010-11-13 23:15 ` Russ Cox
2010-11-13 23:20 ` erik quanstrom
2010-11-13 23:28 ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2010-11-13 23:46 ` erik quanstrom
2010-11-13 23:51 ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
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