On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:50 AM, erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>wrote:

> > Even C has a runtime.  Perhaps you should look more into how programming
> > languages are implemented :-).  C++ has one too, especially in the wake
> of
> > exceptions and such.
>
> really?  what do you consider to be the c runtime?
>
i don't think that the asm goo that gets you to main
> really counts as "runtime" and neither does the c
> library, because neither implement language features.
>
>
How about setting up stack space in the code for an operating system kernel?
 That's something you don't explicitly write in C that must be there
somehow, for example in an operating system kernel.  You end up changing
that runtime bit and then all your C code has different stack space
available.  I suppose you could group that into the kernel's runtime, but
since the operating system I'm thinking of is coded in C, that kind of line
drawing seems silly ;-)

I agree that C has a really really minimal need for any "help" to run on raw
metal, but some level of support is still necessary.

Dave


> - erik
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