From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <59AD4FFD-4628-442F-8D4C-5CE7905CF87D@coraid.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 13:58:06 -0400 Message-ID: From: Joseph Stewart To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174feb12fb504e049374bb59 Subject: Re: [9fans] Why not work for a company based on Plan 9? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6ce861ce-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --0015174feb12fb504e049374bb59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dave, The way I see this is two reasonable people working a misunderstanding out. There are many contemporary examples of endless mud-slinging with no real concern for solving problems or coming to a reasonable conclusion. Regards, -joe On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 1:38 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > Brantley, > > I apologize for my confrontational attitude. It's totally unnecessary, and > I wish that I could take it all back. > > You certainly didn't deserve it, and the 9fans aren't deserving the noise > I've caused by my stupid approach to this thread. > > Dave > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Brantley Coile wrote: > >> dave, >> >> no problem. i didn't cut and paste the answer, but i'm very sorry that i >> gave that impression. i'm a pretty easygoing guy, a fact that isn't obvious >> over an email list. i wasn't irritated by the question at all. the >> question was a very good one. >> >> the reason we can't do remote employees is that one of our objectives is >> that plan9ers have a positive cultural influence on the entire development >> group. i feel such an influence requires daily interaction. but we will >> keep you in mind as we grow. >> >> in all my interactions i try to emulate the gentlemanly ways of dennis >> ritchie. >> brantley >> >> On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:55 AM, David Leimbach wrote: >> >> > Thank you for answering the question. Let me explain my point of view >> on the exchange. >> > >> > I worked for a company in Birmingham AL for about 6 years from Seattle. >> I had Birmingham insurance, Birmingham HR people etc, but I was remote. I >> thought perhaps it was not clear if one could be a satellite employee for >> one of those offices or not. >> > >> > I felt that when you basically cut and pasted your response to me, that >> you were irritated by my question and answering me in a rude way. I was not >> trying to troll the thread, but now it may appear to be the opposite. >> > >> > I have a lot of respect for what you guys have done with Plan 9 and AOE, >> and think it's an interesting business, but suddenly I felt that perhaps I >> wouldn't have a compatible personality with the boss. >> > >> > Anyway, I'd like to reboot the discussion, but it's in the archives now >> :-). >> > >> > I do wish you, very sincerely, to have continued success with your >> business. >> > >> > Dave >> > >> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Brantley Coile >> wrote: >> > i'm sorry. those who are not in silicon valley or northeast georgia >> will have to relocate. >> > >> > On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:30 AM, David Leimbach wrote: >> > >> > > That's actually not an answer but whatever... I guess I don't actually >> care. >> > > >> > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Brantley Coile >> wrote: >> > > the positions are in redwood city, ca and athens, ga. >> > > >> > > On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:17 AM, David Leimbach wrote: >> > > >> > > > Brantley, >> > > > >> > > > I'm asking publicly because I'm betting it's a FAQ. Do you consider >> remote employees as a possibility, or do you require relocation? >> > > > >> > > > Dave >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Brantley Coile < >> brantley@coraid.com> wrote: >> > > > hi guys, >> > > > >> > > > as most on this list know, coraid makes storage devices that use >> plan 9 as the software platform. we also use it as our primary development >> environment. we still run a ken file server here. plan 9 is fundamental to >> our vision. coraid has become a hot silicon valley property and we are >> about to start another round of hiring developers. i knew it would be a >> disservice to this mailing list if i didn't make an announcement here. >> > > > >> > > > developers, qa, and support folks can work either in redwood city, >> ca or athens, ga. there are the usual up and coming silicon valley startup >> stock options. and in athens, you don't have to pay those silicon valley >> prices for housing and beer. athens is very affordable on both these >> counts, especially the beer as anyone who attended the 2009 iwp9 will >> attest. >> > > > >> > > > i hope we're creating a place that i would have wanted to work. >> it's not every place that you can work with plan 9, get paid for it and >> participate in a high potential start-up. >> > > > >> > > > please send resume's to me. >> > > > >> > > > brantley >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > --0015174feb12fb504e049374bb59 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dave,

The way I see this is two reasonable people = working a misunderstanding out. There are many contemporary examples of end= less mud-slinging with no real concern for solving problems or coming to a = reasonable conclusion.

Regards,

-joe

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 1:38 PM, David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
Brantley,

I apologize fo= r my confrontational attitude. =A0It's totally unnecessary, and I wish = that I could take it all back. =A0

You certainly didn't deserve it, and the 9fans aren= 't deserving the noise I've caused by my stupid approach to this th= read. =A0

Dave

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Brantley Coile <brantley@cora= id.com> wrote:
dave,

no problem. =A0i didn't cut and paste the answer, but i'm very sorr= y that i gave that impression. =A0i'm a pretty easygoing guy, a fact th= at isn't obvious over an email list. =A0i wasn't irritated by the q= uestion at all. =A0the question was a very good one.

the reason we can't do remote employees is that one of our objectives i= s that plan9ers have a positive cultural influence on the entire developmen= t group. =A0i feel such an influence requires daily interaction. =A0but we = will keep you in mind as we grow.

in all my interactions i try to emulate the gentlemanly ways of dennis ritc= hie.
brantley

On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:55 AM, David Leimbach wrote:

> Thank you for answering the question. =A0Let me explain my point of vi= ew on the exchange.
>
> I worked for a company in Birmingham AL for about 6 years from Seattle= . =A0I had Birmingham insurance, Birmingham HR people etc, but I was remote= . =A0I thought perhaps it was not clear if one could be a satellite employe= e for one of those offices or not.
>
> I felt that when you basically cut and pasted your response to me, tha= t you were irritated by my question and answering me in a rude way. =A0I wa= s not trying to troll the thread, but now it may appear to be the opposite.=
>
> I have a lot of respect for what you guys have done with Plan 9 and AO= E, and think it's an interesting business, but suddenly I felt that per= haps I wouldn't have a compatible personality with the boss.
>
> Anyway, I'd like to reboot the discussion, but it's in the arc= hives now :-).
>
> I do wish you, very sincerely, to have continued success with your bus= iness.
>
> Dave
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Brantley Coile <brantley@coraid.com> wrote: > i'm sorry. =A0those who are not in silicon valley or northeast geo= rgia will have to relocate.
>
> On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:30 AM, David Leimbach wrote:
>
> > That's actually not an answer but whatever... I guess I don&#= 39;t actually care.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Brantley Coile <brantley@coraid.com> wro= te:
> > the positions are in redwood city, ca and athens, ga.
> >
> > On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:17 AM, David Leimbach wrote:
> >
> > > Brantley,
> > >
> > > I'm asking publicly because I'm betting it's a F= AQ. =A0Do you consider remote employees as a possibility, or do you require= relocation?
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Brantley Coile <brantley@coraid.com&g= t; wrote:
> > > hi guys,
> > >
> > > as most on this list know, coraid makes storage devices that= use plan 9 as the software platform. =A0we also use it as our primary deve= lopment environment. =A0we still run a ken file server here. =A0plan 9 is f= undamental to our vision. =A0coraid has become a hot silicon valley propert= y and we are about to start another round of hiring developers. =A0i knew i= t would be a disservice to this mailing list if i didn't make an announ= cement here.
> > >
> > > developers, qa, and support folks can work either in redwood= city, ca or athens, ga. =A0there are the usual up and coming silicon valle= y startup stock options. =A0and in athens, you don't have to pay those = silicon valley prices for housing and beer. =A0athens is very affordable on= both these counts, especially the beer as anyone who attended the 2009 iwp= 9 will attest.
> > >
> > > i hope we're creating a place that i would have wanted t= o work. =A0it's not every place that you can work with plan 9, get paid= for it and participate in a high potential start-up.
> > >
> > > please send resume's to me.
> > >
> > > brantley
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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