From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C76223.BC7FEE67" Subject: RE: [9fans] Plan9 for a newbie Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:20:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: <45F072F9.10903@watford53.freeserve.co.uk><13426df10703081340u4a6fdbc8w6ac44c0ceb12c63b@mail.gmail.com><6e35c0620703081921n590513e2vd4cbae6db6f02e5c@mail.gmail.com> <56a297000703082325i66f581b4q15ca9f379b1ca5f8@mail.gmail.com> From: To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Topicbox-Message-UUID: 1d49b478-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C76223.BC7FEE67 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hope I will NEVER see icons, gradients and rounded edges on Plan9: the = day they will appear within /n/sources will be the funeral day of Plan9 on = my box -- i'm NOT joking. Let this crap to other OSes, and let's = continue being "OS Ferrari", as labelled earlier by someone else (can't = recall who). Plan9 should not try to be for everybody, for it is the = safest way to HELL. Just IMHO, as usually. Morover, if I was able to master the basics of = using Plan9 , then everyone can. Remember, I'm not a computer man, I'm a biologist. = Vevertheless, I like Plan9 design, enjoy using it on an everyday basis, = I got rid of Windoze long time ago and maintaining a small Linux = partition just for running a web browser with all that crap stuff like = javascript etcetc... pesting most of what in past days have been HTML = 1.0 webpages. When I'm able to install abaco and configure acme mail, i'll get rid of = linux, too. Best regards, ++pac. -----Original Message----- From: 9fans-bounces+cej=3Dgli.cas.cz@cse.psu.edu on behalf of Noah Evans Sent: Fri 3/9/2007 8:25 AM To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan9 for a newbie =20 I think what Plan 9 really needs is a screencast. If people could actually *see* what it was like to use p9 they'd come running. Most users coming from linux seem to get frustrated and move on quickly. All you'd need to do then is add some gradients and rounded edges to rio and acme. Noah On 3/9/07, Jack Johnson wrote: > On 3/8/07, ron minnich wrote: > > The list is pretty endless. > > Nice job, Ron! > > This should be in Glenda's default inbox. > > -Jack > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C76223.BC7FEE67 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-urvgqkussbtlrsffmhtpdfpcpt" Content-Disposition: inline This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-urvgqkussbtlrsffmhtpdfpcpt Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit from postmaster@ethel: The following attachment had content that we can't prove to be harmless. To avoid possible automatic execution, we changed the content headers. 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