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From: Stanley Lieber <stanley.lieber@gmail.com>
To: rbnsw-plan9@yahoo.com.au,
	Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Living with Plan 9
Date: Tue,  7 Jun 2011 13:23:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=F2FKPmBn6oY+5AQdHOZb_K_gCew@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <144325.4665.qm@web30903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> I note there is a Linux user binary emulation and X11  available. Is it sufficient
> to set up a Linux environment on Plan 9 including all the niceties offered by
> Linux modern distribution? Does this completely defeat the purpose of using
> Plan9 in the first place ? If it makes sense, I'd appreciate some guidance in
> this regard. If not, some suggestions on how to best live with *nix ugliness
> would be welcome.

Linuxemu is capable of running a full Linux environment, but performance is
short of optimal.

Currently, tls is not fully implemented, so pre-tls versions of Linux
libraries are required. The example mroot[1] linked at the linuxemu wiki page[2]
is based on an old version of Debian. My own mroot[3] includes Opera 9.50
and some other pre-installed packages. Note: the snarf/copy/paste buffer is not
accessible interchangeably between equis and Plan 9 proper.

The best way to get an idea of whether or not you find this method tolerable
is to try it out on your hardware. The faster your system, and the more RAM
you have available, the better equis/linuxemu will perform. In many cases, I
find a laptop running Plan 9 native with equis/linuxemu to be sufficient for
short sessions of casual browsing.

For daily use I tend to do web browsing/multimedia in OpenBSD and drawterm
to a Thinkpad running Plan 9 native. Basically, all of my text file processing
(programming, web development, IRC, etc.) takes place in Plan 9. OpenBSD is
my firmware layer to take advantage of my hardware and a platform for reasonably
snappy web browsing in Chromium. Since I've yet to stumble across a video card
that can tackle 1920x1080 with DVI or HDMI output (VGA or VESA mode), I've
been reluctant to attempt using equis/linuxemu full-time on my primary desktop
system.

-sl

[1] http://9hal.ath.cx/usr/cinap_lenrek/mroot-linuxemu.tbz
[2] http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Linux_emulation/index.html
[3] http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/linuxemu/mroot.tgz



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-06-07 18:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.0.1307470486.14334.9fans@9fans.net>
2011-06-07 18:00 ` rbnsw-plan9
2011-06-07 18:06   ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2011-06-07 18:23   ` Stanley Lieber [this message]
2011-06-07 20:11     ` cinap_lenrek
2011-06-07 20:12     ` John Floren
2011-06-07 18:34   ` Steve Simon
2011-06-08 10:56     ` Peter A. Cejchan

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