From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <144325.4665.qm@web30903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <144325.4665.qm@web30903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: Stanley Lieber Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 13:23:39 -0500 Message-ID: To: rbnsw-plan9@yahoo.com.au, Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] Living with Plan 9 Topicbox-Message-UUID: ed52573e-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > I note there is a Linux user binary emulation and X11 =C2=A0available. Is= it sufficient > to set up a Linux environment on Plan 9 including all the niceties offere= d by > Linux modern distribution? Does this completely defeat the purpose of usi= ng > Plan9 in the first place ? If it makes sense, I'd appreciate some guidanc= e in > this regard. If not, some suggestions on how to best live with *nix uglin= ess > would be welcome. Linuxemu is capable of running a full Linux environment, but performance is short of optimal. Currently, tls is not fully implemented, so pre-tls versions of Linux libraries are required. The example mroot[1] linked at the linuxemu wiki pa= ge[2] is based on an old version of Debian. My own mroot[3] includes Opera 9.50 and some other pre-installed packages. Note: the snarf/copy/paste buffer is= not accessible interchangeably between equis and Plan 9 proper. The best way to get an idea of whether or not you find this method tolerabl= e is to try it out on your hardware. The faster your system, and the more RAM you have available, the better equis/linuxemu will perform. In many cases, = I find a laptop running Plan 9 native with equis/linuxemu to be sufficient fo= r short sessions of casual browsing. For daily use I tend to do web browsing/multimedia in OpenBSD and drawterm to a Thinkpad running Plan 9 native. Basically, all of my text file process= ing (programming, web development, IRC, etc.) takes place in Plan 9. OpenBSD is my firmware layer to take advantage of my hardware and a platform for reaso= nably snappy web browsing in Chromium. Since I've yet to stumble across a video c= ard that can tackle 1920x1080 with DVI or HDMI output (VGA or VESA mode), I've been reluctant to attempt using equis/linuxemu full-time on my primary desk= top system. -sl [1] http://9hal.ath.cx/usr/cinap_lenrek/mroot-linuxemu.tbz [2] http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Linux_emulation/index.html [3] http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/linuxemu/mroot.tgz