From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201105171658.09729.errno@cox.net> References: <201105171549.34288.errno@cox.net> <201105171658.09729.errno@cox.net> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 17:18:48 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Leimbach To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bdf4e1a466d04a381d57c Subject: Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript? Topicbox-Message-UUID: e55f0da6-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --0015174bdf4e1a466d04a381d57c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 4:58 PM, errno wrote: > On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 04:40:50 PM Jacob Todd wrote: > > Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing > > something that accesses plan 9 from the web will be less > > hard. > > > > Correct; but also somewhat ancillary to the general areas > of concern: > > > Is it really all that often when a Plan 9 user is in the precarious > > situation of needing to access his plan9 system from some > > other person's/party's pc or laptop? > Instead of a "traditional web server platform" for web applications this could be an alternative deployment target. Use a grid of Plan 9 machines with a "native" interface in JavaScript. JavaScript front end to a distributed Go application on Plan 9 sounds like a potentially useful medium to work in. > > > Ok, who slipped me the Cr@zy Pills? Just a couple weeks ago, > > javascript and web technologies were THE DEVIL INCARNATE... > > > I realize I'm being unimaginative, but I'm having a very difficult > > time conceiving what sort of plan 9 application could possibly > > be appealing to non-plan 9 users. > The one that doesn't look like a Plan 9 application, but instead looks like a useful application? I don't think Linux was appealing to very many people before it was obvious one could host a cheap http server on it either. > > > The web is the key. > > That's part of it likely, but I think we have to be able to imagine how Plan 9 makes something easier for someone with a web browser. Technology in search of a use is almost always the wrong way to go, but I think it did work out in Linux's case. Dave > Cheers > > > --0015174bdf4e1a466d04a381d57c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 4:58 PM, errno <= span dir=3D"ltr"><errno@cox.net>= wrote:
On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 04:40:50 PM Jacob Todd wrote: > Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing
> something that accesses plan 9 from the web will be less
> hard.
>

Correct; but also somewhat ancillary to the general areas
of concern:

> Is it really all that often when a Plan 9 user is in the precarious > situation of needing to access his plan9 system from some
> other person's/party's pc or laptop?

Instead of a "traditional web server platform" f= or web applications this could be an alternative deployment target.

Use a grid of Plan 9 machines with a "native"= interface in JavaScript.

JavaScript front end to = a distributed Go application on Plan 9 sounds like a potentially useful med= ium to work in. =A0
=A0

> Ok, who slipped me the Cr@zy Pills? Just a cou= ple weeks ago,
> javascript and web technologies were THE DEVIL INCARNATE...

> I realize I'm being unimaginative, but I&#= 39;m having a very difficult
> time conceiving what sort of plan 9 application could possibly
> be appealing to non-plan 9 users.

The one that doesn't look like a Plan 9 application, but instead = looks like a useful application?

I don't think= Linux was appealing to very many people before it was obvious one could ho= st a cheap http server on it either.
=A0

> The web is the key.

=

That's part of it likely, but I think we have to be= able to imagine how Plan 9 makes something easier for someone with a web b= rowser. =A0Technology in search of a use is almost always the wrong way to = go, but I think it did work out in Linux's case.

Dave


Cheers



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