From: andrew zerger <rhoyerboat@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:29:11 -0600 [thread overview]
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I agree with the wait-lock theory of clicking keys, it applies to just about
anything involving intention, execution and outcome. "Good it worked!" or
"DOH!WTF?" .. these impressions I think are at the heart of a human,
experimentation=survival thing. That said, I also agree that the ideal
interface depends on the user. That said, I really need to look into
off-plan9 Acme/acme-like stuff through which I can replace my ssh/vi
terminals, "Notepad can run regex and send strings down some pipe, while
saving all the stupidity I have put myself through to get where I am?"
AWESOME
However, one further observation on mousing vs. typing, Explaining to the
most entry level user how to defrag the C drive on a Windows machine:
Mousing:
Click the start menu.
Hover on Programs or All Programs depending on your Windows version/theme.
Hover over Accessories
Hover over System Tools
Click on Disk Defragmentor.
Look for a list of selectable disks in the top-half region of the window.
Click the disk you want to defrag in order to select it.
Click the Defragment button in the bottom of the window.
OR..
Typing:
open a command prompt (because this would be commonpolace)
type: "defrag c:"
hit the return key
I think brain-wait-locked is real, but what makes typing "superior," anyway
is that it is our native programming and networking protocol, we don't have
to compress type-oriented instructions into some visual-human-vnc terminal
in order to copy them to another server (that means person.)
The ideal UI utilizes both forms in a unified fasion, here we have a "start
menu" which is a list of executables in a set of directories, and the menu
subitems are the executables that have been executed in that directory with
varying options, sub-item-per-option. And you can copy the menu item to a
run-command-bar, edit it and execute it again, saving it back to the
menu-list as a new sub-item.
I <3 plan9,
rhoyerboat
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Harri Haataja <realblades@gmail.com>wrote:
> On 17 June 2011 19:54, Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com> wrote:
> > I am all for more intuitive HCI design but frankly, if the small speed
> > difference either way in mousing vs typing saves you enough time to make
> it
> > worth retraining your brain and fingers, you are spending way too much
> time
> > in front of the puter and have already shortened your life by more than
> you
> > will save by any optimal use of mousing/keyboarding!
>
> Some of us have to spend our working hours in front of a computer and
> once the interface stops sucking your attention and causing pain, you
> can concentrate on the data in front of you instead of wasting your
> time thinking about the computer or operating system quirks.
>
> --
> I appear to be temporarily using gmail's horrible interface. I
> apologise for any failure in my part in trying to make it do the right
> thing with post formatting.
>
>
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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-15 16:23 David Leimbach
2011-06-15 16:27 ` Jacob Todd
2011-06-15 20:19 ` errno
2011-06-15 20:30 ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-06-15 20:54 ` errno
2011-06-16 5:46 ` Charles Forsyth
2011-06-16 8:54 ` errno
2011-06-15 16:48 ` dexen deVries
2011-06-15 17:10 ` Jack Norton
2011-06-15 17:16 ` John Floren
2011-06-15 18:05 ` Mauricio CA
2011-06-15 18:16 ` Connor Lane Smith
2011-06-15 18:37 ` Harri Haataja
2011-06-15 19:28 ` dexen deVries
2011-06-16 9:30 ` antonio.fin
2011-06-16 11:54 ` Gorka Guardiola
2011-06-17 7:57 ` Guilherme Lino
2011-06-17 8:14 ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-06-17 9:16 ` Noah Evans
2011-06-17 14:26 ` ComeauAt9Fans@gmail.com
2011-06-17 13:55 ` Iruatã Souza
2011-06-17 15:39 ` Paul Lalonde
2011-06-17 16:09 ` Iruatã Souza
2011-06-17 16:54 ` Bakul Shah
2011-06-17 16:59 ` Harri Haataja
2011-06-17 17:29 ` andrew zerger [this message]
2011-06-17 18:03 ` Bakul Shah
2011-06-21 16:48 ` [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users " William Cowan
2011-06-21 17:20 ` Jack Johnson
2011-06-21 17:42 ` errno
2011-06-21 18:04 ` Jack Johnson
2011-06-21 19:42 ` errno
2011-06-17 18:52 ` [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do " errno
2011-06-17 10:05 ` antonio.fin
2011-06-17 10:44 ` Gorka Guardiola
2011-06-17 10:14 ` Oleg Finkelshteyn
2011-06-17 10:23 ` Rob Pike
2011-06-17 10:33 ` Gabriel Díaz López de la llave
2011-06-17 10:36 ` Rogelio Serrano
2011-06-17 11:19 ` dexen deVries
2011-06-17 12:22 ` hiro
2011-06-17 12:31 ` simon softnet
2011-06-17 19:23 ` Guilherme Lino
2011-06-17 19:34 ` Federico G. Benavento
2011-06-17 20:41 ` dorin bumbu
2011-06-17 20:49 ` Steve Simon
2011-06-17 19:47 ` John Floren
2011-06-17 21:42 ` David Leimbach
2011-06-17 23:03 ` simon softnet
2011-06-18 0:35 ` David Leimbach
2011-06-18 0:44 ` simon softnet
2011-06-18 0:56 ` John Floren
2011-07-04 17:30 ` [9fans] Mousing muscle memory (was: Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it) Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-07-04 20:05 ` hiro
2011-07-04 21:21 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-07-04 20:44 ` EBo
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