I agree with the wait-lock theory of clicking keys, it applies to just about anything involving intention, execution and outcome. "Good it worked!" or "DOH!WTF?" .. these impressions I think are at the heart of a human, experimentation=survival thing. That said, I also agree that the ideal interface depends on the user. That said, I really need to look into off-plan9 Acme/acme-like stuff through which I can replace my ssh/vi terminals, "Notepad can run regex and send strings down some pipe, while saving all the stupidity I have put myself through to get where I am?" AWESOME However, one further observation on mousing vs. typing, Explaining to the most entry level user how to defrag the C drive on a Windows machine: Mousing: Click the start menu. Hover on Programs or All Programs depending on your Windows version/theme. Hover over Accessories Hover over System Tools Click on Disk Defragmentor. Look for a list of selectable disks in the top-half region of the window. Click the disk you want to defrag in order to select it. Click the Defragment button in the bottom of the window. OR.. Typing: open a command prompt (because this would be commonpolace) type: "defrag c:" hit the return key I think brain-wait-locked is real, but what makes typing "superior," anyway is that it is our native programming and networking protocol, we don't have to compress type-oriented instructions into some visual-human-vnc terminal in order to copy them to another server (that means person.) The ideal UI utilizes both forms in a unified fasion, here we have a "start menu" which is a list of executables in a set of directories, and the menu subitems are the executables that have been executed in that directory with varying options, sub-item-per-option. And you can copy the menu item to a run-command-bar, edit it and execute it again, saving it back to the menu-list as a new sub-item. I <3 plan9, rhoyerboat On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Harri Haataja wrote: > On 17 June 2011 19:54, Bakul Shah wrote: > > I am all for more intuitive HCI design but frankly, if the small speed > > difference either way in mousing vs typing saves you enough time to make > it > > worth retraining your brain and fingers, you are spending way too much > time > > in front of the puter and have already shortened your life by more than > you > > will save by any optimal use of mousing/keyboarding! > > Some of us have to spend our working hours in front of a computer and > once the interface stops sucking your attention and causing pain, you > can concentrate on the data in front of you instead of wasting your > time thinking about the computer or operating system quirks. > > -- > I appear to be temporarily using gmail's horrible interface. I > apologise for any failure in my part in trying to make it do the right > thing with post formatting. > > -- ⎼⎺⎺├@┼␊├├≤-␍⎼␊▒␍:/␤⎺└␊/⎼␤⎺#