9fans - fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Connor Lane Smith <cls@lubutu.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:16:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTikLmcGVyU_saezTruKdDJ+1HUQU9Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <itas8j$8h3$1@dough.gmane.org>

Hey,

Honestly I think both sides of this argument are completely absurd.
Yes, the mouse is best for selecting points and ranges. No, the mouse
is not better than the keyboard for other commands. The study from
1989 is basically based around the claim that it "takes two seconds to
decide upon which special-function key to press." I'm sorry, does
anyone truly believe that it takes a user two seconds to hit a common
shortcut like Ctrl-S or Ctrl-C? That's ridiculous; it may take two
seconds *until* it becomes muscle memory, which is the whole point of
keyboarding: it becomes muscle memory, whereas the mouse does not.

"By using Command X, C, and V, the user can select with one hand and
act with the other. Two-handed input. Two-handed input can result in
solid productivity gains (Buxton 1986)." Using both hands with your
computer? What a novel idea. One can clearly edit faster if one can
select ranges with the mouse and issue commands with the keyboard,
moving to full keyboard use when inserting or searching. The optimal
solution is to use *both* the mouse and keyboard, because they each
have their advantages. Doesn't that seem reasonable?

Thanks,
cls



  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-15 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-15 16:23 David Leimbach
2011-06-15 16:27 ` Jacob Todd
2011-06-15 20:19   ` errno
2011-06-15 20:30     ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-06-15 20:54       ` errno
2011-06-16  5:46     ` Charles Forsyth
2011-06-16  8:54       ` errno
2011-06-15 16:48 ` dexen deVries
2011-06-15 17:10   ` Jack Norton
2011-06-15 17:16     ` John Floren
2011-06-15 18:05 ` Mauricio CA
2011-06-15 18:16   ` Connor Lane Smith [this message]
2011-06-15 18:37     ` Harri Haataja
2011-06-15 19:28       ` dexen deVries
2011-06-16  9:30 ` antonio.fin
2011-06-16 11:54   ` Gorka Guardiola
2011-06-17  7:57     ` Guilherme Lino
2011-06-17  8:14       ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-06-17  9:16       ` Noah Evans
2011-06-17 14:26         ` ComeauAt9Fans@gmail.com
2011-06-17 13:55       ` Iruatã Souza
2011-06-17 15:39         ` Paul Lalonde
2011-06-17 16:09           ` Iruatã Souza
2011-06-17 16:54           ` Bakul Shah
2011-06-17 16:59             ` Harri Haataja
2011-06-17 17:29               ` andrew zerger
2011-06-17 18:03               ` Bakul Shah
2011-06-21 16:48         ` [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users " William Cowan
2011-06-21 17:20           ` Jack Johnson
2011-06-21 17:42             ` errno
2011-06-21 18:04               ` Jack Johnson
2011-06-21 19:42                 ` errno
2011-06-17 18:52       ` [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do " errno
2011-06-17 10:05     ` antonio.fin
2011-06-17 10:44       ` Gorka Guardiola
2011-06-17 10:14 ` Oleg Finkelshteyn
2011-06-17 10:23   ` Rob Pike
2011-06-17 10:33     ` Gabriel Díaz López de la llave
2011-06-17 10:36     ` Rogelio Serrano
2011-06-17 11:19       ` dexen deVries
2011-06-17 12:22         ` hiro
2011-06-17 12:31           ` simon softnet
2011-06-17 19:23             ` Guilherme Lino
2011-06-17 19:34               ` Federico G. Benavento
2011-06-17 20:41               ` dorin bumbu
2011-06-17 20:49                 ` Steve Simon
2011-06-17 19:47 ` John Floren
2011-06-17 21:42   ` David Leimbach
2011-06-17 23:03     ` simon softnet
2011-06-18  0:35       ` David Leimbach
2011-06-18  0:44         ` simon softnet
2011-06-18  0:56     ` John Floren
2011-07-04 17:30 ` [9fans] Mousing muscle memory (was: Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it) Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-07-04 20:05   ` hiro
2011-07-04 21:21     ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-07-04 20:44   ` EBo

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=BANLkTikLmcGVyU_saezTruKdDJ+1HUQU9Q@mail.gmail.com \
    --to=cls@lubutu.com \
    --cc=9fans@9fans.net \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).