From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <129E2E01-3583-4E27-B520-252A956F59FC@corpus-callosum.com> <20110508182753.GA18603@polynum.com> <20110509165438.GA542@polynum.com> <1304961010.1825.196.camel@Wes-Toshiba-Laptop> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 14:47:44 -0700 Message-ID: From: John Floren To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames Topicbox-Message-UUID: e2673010-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 He's talking about wine (spoiled grape juice), in a discussion which continues to go further afield with each passing message :) John On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:34 AM, hiro <23hiro@googlemail.com> wrote: > 20$ for a juice? I thought the dollar was already pretty high these > days? Seldom do I say this phrase but what the fuck! > > On 5/9/11, Wes Kussmaul wrote: >> On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 18:54 +0200, tlaronde@polynum.com wrote: >> >> >>> Just look for the origin: the verb is "sophistiquer"... The usage and >>> the dictionnaries are inconsistant, since "sophistiqu=E9" (now used non >>> pejoratively) is the past participle of "sophistiquer" that is >>> definitively pejorative. (Look for "sophistiquement" too; all this come= s >>> from philosophy where sophiste is not to be taken in good part)... >> >> >> This is where semantics encounters the "everybody's somebody's fool" >> principle. I hang out with people who pay $20+++ for a liter of spoiled >> grape juice. The more they pay the more their peers regard them as being >> sophisticated. People outside that culture would see that very same use >> of the term "sophisticated" as a pejorative. Sophistication is in the >> eye of the beholder. >> > >