From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <44c5b39f47469ed34fefaf5f4f6f7c2e@brasstown.quanstro.net> References: <20110506042334.GA5763@fangle.proxima.alt.za> <201105060008.05067.errno@cox.net> <44c5b39f47469ed34fefaf5f4f6f7c2e@brasstown.quanstro.net> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 18:32:26 -0400 Message-ID: From: Comeau At9Fans To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0021cc02280e7919b104a2a310ec Subject: Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames Topicbox-Message-UUID: dfd6b942-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --0021cc02280e7919b104a2a310ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:59 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > Do you not think it's possible or worthwhile to have a great(er) desktop > > (or consumer-oriented embedded device) experience built atop Plan 9? > > i'm not 100% sure what the op ment. but one way one could > read it is that plan 9 is for research, it doesn't need to be usable. > i don't think that was the point, and i wouldn't sign up for that > intpretation. > > the way i would read that is that since we value clean ideas and > orthogonal design more than polish, you get a clean and malleable > os, but you don't get this for free. it's not that easy to port stuff > to plan 9, and it's hard to get folks interested in certain boil-the- > oceans projects like building a full html 5 web browser. > Let's say for argument's sake that errno pulls this off. Let's say he manages to get something like FireFox working on Plan 9. Let's say that the executable is fully functional (don't know if that's possible but let's assume it is). How does this change things literally, conceptually and philosophically? Consider this question across the board, for instance, can Plan 9 handle it (whatever that means)? How does it change Plan 9's future? What I'm getting at is that I'm hearing things about it being a research OS, so what would it mean for a research OS to have a full fledged browser available for it? -- Greg Comeau / 4.3.10.1 with C++0xisms now in beta! Comeau C/C++ ONLINE ==> http://www.comeaucomputing.com/tryitout World Class Compilers: Breathtaking C++, Amazing C99, Fabulous C90. Comeau C/C++ with Dinkumware's Libraries... Have you tried it? --0021cc02280e7919b104a2a310ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:59 AM, erik quanstrom=A0<quanstro@quanstro.ne= t>=A0wrote:
> Do you not think it's possible or worthwhile to have a great(= er) desktop
> (or consumer-oriented embedded device) experience built= atop Plan 9?

i'm not 100% sure what the op ment. =A0but o= ne way one could
read it is that plan 9 is for research, it doesn't need to be usable.i don't think that was the point, and i wouldn't sign up for that=
intpretation.

the way i would read that is that since we value c= lean ideas and
orthogonal design more than polish, you get a clean and malleable
os, bu= t you don't get this for free. =A0it's not that easy to port stuff<= br>to plan 9, and it's hard to get folks interested in certain boil-the= -
oceans projects like building a full html 5 web browser.
=A0
Let's say for argument&= #39;s sake that errno pulls this off. =A0Let's say he manages to get so= mething like FireFox working on Plan 9. =A0Let's say that the executabl= e is fully functional (don't know if that's possible but let's = assume it is). =A0How does this change things literally, conceptually and p= hilosophically? =A0 Consider this question across the board, for instance, = can Plan 9 handle it (whatever that means)? =A0How does it change Plan 9= 9;s future? =A0What I'm getting at is that I'm hearing things about= it being a research OS, so what would it mean for a research OS to have a = full fledged browser available for it?

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Greg Comeau / 4.3.10.1 with C++0xisms now in beta!
Comeau C/C++ ONLINE =3D=3D> =A0 =A0 http://www.comeaucomputing.com/tryitout
World Class Compilers: =A0Breathtaking C++, Amazing C99, Fabulous C90.
Comeau C/C++ with Dinkumware's Libraries... Have you tried it?
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