From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201105171549.34288.errno@cox.net> References: <201105171549.34288.errno@cox.net> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 19:40:50 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jacob Todd To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555b7c658e2b904a3814d55 Subject: Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript? Topicbox-Message-UUID: e5462b56-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --00032555b7c658e2b904a3814d55 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing something that accesses plan 9 from the web will be less hard. On May 17, 2011 6:53 PM, "errno" wrote: > On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:31:32 AM John Floren wrote: >> they want to let you connect to your Plan 9 system from a web >> browser, because you can find a Javascript-supporting web browser >> anywhere (except Plan 9) these days. >> > On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:00:15 AM Adrian Tritschler wrote: >> Serve it over http and access your CPU server from anywhere >> that's got a web browser. >> > > Is it really all that often when a Plan 9 user is in the precarious > situation of needing to access his plan9 system from some > other person's/party's pc or laptop? > > Is this for when you glide into a coffee shop and forget your > laptop or something? "Hey, Mr.... may I borrow your laptop's > web browser for a sec... I really need to hack some code on > my plan9 system." > > On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:04:02 PM Skip Tavakkolian wrote: >> that's not the point though; the point is to have something >> that runs natively in the browser. >> > On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:31:32 AM John Floren wrote: >> Writing a drawterm replacement in Javascript is not >> going to "downgrade" Plan 9. >> > > Ok, who slipped me the Cr@zy Pills? Just a couple weeks ago, > javascript and web technologies were THE DEVIL INCARNATE... > but suddenly, here's something we can all get behind... > javascript + html5 + browsers and other web standards > are now OK[tm]? > > So.... it's cool to have "the 9" running 'native' in a browser > (via javascript!)... but to have "the web" running 'native' in > Plan 9... is stark full of controversy, fear, uncertainty and > doubt? > > On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:18:45 AM erik quanstrom wrote: >> one would then be able to write applications for non-plan 9 >> users in plan 9. >> > > I realize I'm being unimaginative, but I'm having a very difficult > time conceiving what sort of plan 9 application could possibly > be appealing to non-plan 9 users. > > On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:18:45 AM erik quanstrom wrote: >> it would be nice to have emulated environment that's more >> portable than 9vx and not tied to 32-bit x86. >> > > Well now this at least actually makes some modicum of sense > to me. > > The web is the key. > --00032555b7c658e2b904a3814d55 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing something that= accesses plan 9 from the web will be less hard.

On May 17, 2011 6:53 PM, "errno" <<= a href=3D"mailto:errno@cox.net">errno@cox.net> wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:31:32 AM John Floren wrote:
&= gt;> they want to let you connect to your Plan 9 system from a web
>> browser, because you can find a Javascript-supporting web browser =
>> anywhere (except Plan 9) these days.
>>
> On Tu= esday, May 17, 2011 12:00:15 AM Adrian Tritschler wrote:
>> Serve = it over http and access your CPU server from anywhere
>> that's got a web browser.
>>
>
> Is it r= eally all that often when a Plan 9 user is in the precarious
> situat= ion of needing to access his plan9 system from some
> other person= 9;s/party's pc or laptop?
>
> Is this for when you glide into a coffee shop and forget your=
> laptop or something? "Hey, Mr.... may I borrow your laptop= 9;s
> web browser for a sec... I really need to hack some code on > my plan9 system."
>
> On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:04= :02 PM Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
>> that's not the point though;= the point is to have something
>> that runs natively in the brow= ser.
>>
> On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:31:32 AM John Floren wrote:>> Writing a drawterm replacement in Javascript is not
>> g= oing to "downgrade" Plan 9.
>>
>
> Ok, who = slipped me the Cr@zy Pills? Just a couple weeks ago,
> javascript and web technologies were THE DEVIL INCARNATE...
> bu= t suddenly, here's something we can all get behind...
> javascrip= t + html5 + browsers and other web standards
> are now OK[tm]?
>
> So.... it's cool to have "the 9" running 'n= ative' in a browser
> (via javascript!)... but to have "the = web" running 'native' in
> Plan 9... is stark full of c= ontroversy, fear, uncertainty and
> doubt?
>
> On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:18:45 AM erik quan= strom wrote:
>> one would then be able to write applications for n= on-plan 9
>> users in plan 9.
>>
>
> I re= alize I'm being unimaginative, but I'm having a very difficult
> time conceiving what sort of plan 9 application could possibly
>= be appealing to non-plan 9 users.
>
> On Tuesday, May 17, 201= 1 11:18:45 AM erik quanstrom wrote:
>> it would be nice to have em= ulated environment that's more
>> portable than 9vx and not tied to 32-bit x86.
>>
> =
> Well now this at least actually makes some modicum of sense
&g= t; to me.
>
> The web is the key.
>
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