Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[Francisco J Ballesteros]

Hot plug of disks kbs and mice should work fine as expected. It's been  
tested

El 28/05/2009, a las 13:17, kokamoto@hera.eonet.ne.jp escribió:

>> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:52 AM, Shaowei Wang (wsw) <wsw1wsw2@gmail.com 
>> > wrote:
>>> Is this news mean we can hotplug the usb mouse and keyboard?
>>>
>>
>> yes.
>
> Theoretically, you are right.
> However, what does it mean for Plan 9?
> hotplug keyboard? for what?
> hotplug mouse? hmmm
>
> Thank you very muc nemo.
>
> Now I can use usb mouse on my shit motherboard, P5K-VM.
> Of course, it does recognize all the 8 root hubs.
> Another ohci machine, which I've been using
> by adding uhci pci board...☺
>
> I can enjoy very fast data transfer between a usb memory to real disk.
> This is very great advance to me.
>
> Thank you nemo, again.
>
> Kenji
>
>
> [/mail/box/nemo/msgs/200905/41068]

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[Pavel Klinkovsky]

I install the newest Plan9 image (2009-06-08) in my old IBM ThinkPad
T30.
I connected a USB mouse. But it works crazy (gliding just vertically,
randomly, no effect of buttons).

Can you someone help me? Thanks in advance.

Pavel

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[erik quanstrom]

On Mon Jun  8 11:44:06 EDT 2009, pavel.klinkovsky@gmail.com wrote:
> I install the newest Plan9 image (2009-06-08) in my old IBM ThinkPad
> T30.
> I connected a USB mouse. But it works crazy (gliding just vertically,
> randomly, no effect of buttons).
>
> Can you someone help me? Thanks in advance.

did the mouse work before?

- erik

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[Francisco J Ballesteros]

Can you send me (off list) the contents of /dev/usb/ctl ?

Also, it would help if you could run usb/usbd with debug
(see the man page or drop me a line) and send me the output
as well.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Pavel
Klinkovsky<pavel.klinkovsky@gmail.com> wrote:
> I install the newest Plan9 image (2009-06-08) in my old IBM ThinkPad
> T30.
> I connected a USB mouse. But it works crazy (gliding just vertically,
> randomly, no effect of buttons).
>
> Can you someone help me? Thanks in advance.
>
> Pavel
>
>

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[Pavel Klinkovsky]

> did the mouse work before?
I do not know, I used just touchpad...
I am going to try Linux on the same noteboot with the same mouse. I
will inform you.

The same mouse works without troubles in the other computer with
WinXP.

Pavel

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[Pavel Klinkovsky]

> I am going to try Linux on the same noteboot with the same mouse. I
Works without troubles.

Pavel

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[Francisco J Ballesteros]

I suspect that mouse requires using the report protocol
(most mice are fine with the boot protocol, which is what kb
uses).

I'll write a variant of the driver using the report protocol just to be
sure that's the problem, but It'll have to wait a few days.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Pavel
Klinkovsky<pavel.klinkovsky@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I am going to try Linux on the same noteboot with the same mouse. I
> Works without troubles.
>
> Pavel
>
>

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[Pavel Klinkovsky]

> I'll write a variant of the driver using the report protocol just to be
> sure that's the problem, but It'll have to wait a few days.
No problem, touchpad could be (uncomfortably) used. ;-)

Pavel

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[Francisco J Ballesteros]

Ok. In any case, if there's any other mouse that does not work.
Please, let me know.
I'm trying to get a mouse exactly like yours.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Pavel
Klinkovsky<pavel.klinkovsky@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'll write a variant of the driver using the report protocol just to be
>> sure that's the problem, but It'll have to wait a few days.
> No problem, touchpad could be (uncomfortably) used. ;-)
>
> Pavel
>
>

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[erik quanstrom]

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>
> Didn't say impossible, I said tricky.

here's the code.  it's not hard at all.  the meat of
the code just is one line.  the rest is error checking.

a very similar script would turn all aoe devices into
sd devices via sdaoe, though i always end up doing
that by hand.

- erik

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#!/bin/rc
# turn usb disks into sd devices via sdloop(3)
rfork e
disk = ()
disks=()
name=()

fn picksd{
	p=`{awk '{print $1}' < /dev/sdctl}
	r=()
	for(i in u v w x y z)
		if(~ $#r 0 && ! ~ sd$i $p)
			r = $i
	echo $r
}

test -e /dev/usb || bind -a '#u' /dev || {
	echo no '#u/usb' >[1=2]
	exit nousb
}
test -e /dev/usbdctl || mount -a /srv/usb /dev || {
	echo cannot mount /srv/usb >[1=2]
	exit nousbd
}

switch($#*){
case 0
	;
case 1
	disks = $1
case 2
	disks = $1
	name = $2
case *
	echo usage: usbsd ' [disk [sdname]]' >[1=2]
	exit usage
}

if(~ $#disks 0){
	if(! test -e /dev/sdU*/data){
		echo no usb disks >[1=2]
		exit nodisk
	}
	disks = `{echo /dev/sdU*/data}
}

for(d in $disks){
	if(~ $d /dev/sdU*.[0-9]*/data && test -e $d){
		if(~ $#name 0)
			name=`{picksd u}
		if(~ $#name 0){
			echo no available devices >[2=1];
			exit nodev
		}
		echo config switch on spec $name type loop/$d >/dev/sdctl
	}
	if not
		echo $d does not exist >[2=1]
}
exit ''

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[Gorka Guardiola]

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:36 PM, erik quanstrom<quanstro@coraid.com> wrote:
>> Formatting the USB drive is tricky though.
>
> what do you mean by formatting?  if you mean that usb/disk
> doesn't do partitions, you can use sdloop or partfs to get around
> that.  it wouldn't be too hard to extend usbfat: to automagicly
> configure /dev/sdu[0-f].

Didn't say impossible, I said tricky.

-- 
- curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[erik quanstrom]

> Formatting the USB drive is tricky though.

what do you mean by formatting?  if you mean that usb/disk
doesn't do partitions, you can use sdloop or partfs to get around
that.  it wouldn't be too hard to extend usbfat: to automagicly
configure /dev/sdu[0-f].

- erik

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[Gorka Guardiola]

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Francisco J Ballesteros<nemo@lsub.org> wrote:
> I think someone managed to boot from usb, but I´m not sure.
> In any case, the change means that usb is ready at boot(8) time
> if usbd is compiled in the kernel. Booting from usb requires 9load
> loading a kernel from usb. I don´t know what´s the status for that.
>

Las time I checked that worked for bios which where able to boot from USB drives
linearly addressed. I go the kernel to load, so with the usb at boot
time, all the
pieces are there.
Formatting the USB drive is tricky though.


-- 
- curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[geoff]

In principle you can boot from usb devices using "bios0" or
"sdB0" as boot methods; see 9load(8).  In practice, BIOS bugs
may get in the way, but it's worth trying.

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[Francisco J Ballesteros]

I think someone managed to boot from usb, but I´m not sure.
In any case, the change means that usb is ready at boot(8) time
if usbd is compiled in the kernel. Booting from usb requires 9load
loading a kernel from usb. I don´t know what´s the status for that.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Matthias Bauer<plan9@weggla.franken.de> wrote:
>
>> [..]
>> I've updated on sources at least /386/9*load* (though they contain no
>> USB code), /386/9pc*, kernel sources, manual pages and a few scripts
>> in /rc/bin.  Tomorrow's CD image should incorporate all this.
>> [..]
>
> Many thanks to nemo!
> Does this mean that Plan9 can now boot from usb drives?
> That would be really useful.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Matthias
>
>
>

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[Matthias Bauer]

> [..]
> I've updated on sources at least /386/9*load* (though they contain no
> USB code), /386/9pc*, kernel sources, manual pages and a few scripts
> in /rc/bin.  Tomorrow's CD image should incorporate all this.
> [..]

Many thanks to nemo!
Does this mean that Plan9 can now boot from usb drives?
That would be really useful.

Thanks again,

Matthias

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[kokamoto]

> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:52 AM, Shaowei Wang (wsw) <wsw1wsw2@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is this news mean we can hotplug the usb mouse and keyboard?
>>
> 
> yes.

Theoretically, you are right.
However, what does it mean for Plan 9?
hotplug keyboard?   for what?
hotplug mouse?  hmmm

Thank you very muc nemo.

Now I can use usb mouse on my shit motherboard, P5K-VM.
Of course, it does recognize all the 8 root hubs.
Another ohci machine, which I've been using 
by adding uhci pci board...☺

I can enjoy very fast data transfer between a usb memory to real disk.
This is very great advance to me.

Thank you nemo, again.

Kenji

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[Balwinder S Dheeman]

Thanks a lot :)

I shall be able to boot plan9 CD off of USB 2.0 DVD-WR drive and install
the same on a SATA/EHCI HDD.

On 05/27/2009 02:11 AM, geoff@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:
> I've just pushed out to sources a new USB implementation, courtesy of
> nemo, who debugged and repaired our old UHCI and OHCI drivers, wrote a
> new EHCI driver for USB 2, converted the user-mode drivers in /bin/usb
> and tested it all, among other things.  Thank you, nemo.
>
> I've updated on sources at least /386/9*load* (though they contain no
> USB code), /386/9pc*, kernel sources, manual pages and a few scripts
> in /rc/bin.  Tomorrow's CD image should incorporate all this.
>
> devusb has a new interface, so it is named #u, to distinguish it from
> the old one, #U.  If usbd is compiled into /boot, /boot/boot will run
> usbd at start up, thus permitting the use of USB keyboards, mice,
> disks, etc. at boot time.

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Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[Gorka Guardiola]

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:52 AM, Shaowei Wang (wsw) <wsw1wsw2@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is this news mean we can hotplug the usb mouse and keyboard?
>

yes.

--
- curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[Shaowei Wang (wsw)]

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Is this news mean we can hotplug the usb mouse and keyboard?

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:43 AM, David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:37 PM, <geoff@plan9.bell-labs.com> wrote:
>
>> I've just pushed out to sources a new USB implementation, courtesy of
>> nemo, who debugged and repaired our old UHCI and OHCI drivers, wrote a
>> new EHCI driver for USB 2, converted the user-mode drivers in /bin/usb
>> and tested it all, among other things.  Thank you, nemo.
>>
>
> Yes thank you Nemo!  That's awesome stuff.
>
>
>>
>> I've updated on sources at least /386/9*load* (though they contain no
>> USB code), /386/9pc*, kernel sources, manual pages and a few scripts
>> in /rc/bin.  Tomorrow's CD image should incorporate all this.
>>
>
> Thank you Geoff!  :-)
>
>
>>
>> devusb has a new interface, so it is named #u, to distinguish it from
>> the old one, #U.  If usbd is compiled into /boot, /boot/boot will run
>> usbd at start up, thus permitting the use of USB keyboards, mice,
>> disks, etc. at boot time.
>
>
> That's awesome....
>
>

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Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[David Leimbach]

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On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:37 PM, <geoff@plan9.bell-labs.com> wrote:

> I've just pushed out to sources a new USB implementation, courtesy of
> nemo, who debugged and repaired our old UHCI and OHCI drivers, wrote a
> new EHCI driver for USB 2, converted the user-mode drivers in /bin/usb
> and tested it all, among other things.  Thank you, nemo.
>

Yes thank you Nemo!  That's awesome stuff.


>
> I've updated on sources at least /386/9*load* (though they contain no
> USB code), /386/9pc*, kernel sources, manual pages and a few scripts
> in /rc/bin.  Tomorrow's CD image should incorporate all this.
>

Thank you Geoff!  :-)


>
> devusb has a new interface, so it is named #u, to distinguish it from
> the old one, #U.  If usbd is compiled into /boot, /boot/boot will run
> usbd at start up, thus permitting the use of USB keyboards, mice,
> disks, etc. at boot time.


That's awesome....

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Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[jt]

Dear Geoff,

   This is great news!  I'm new to plan 9 and am now finishing the
port for the OLPC XO.  I've read the manual pages on "How to
Contribute."  It states I should ask for a space from you.  What does
that entail?  I hope everything is well.  Plan9 has made me ecstatic
about OS again!  I find myself creating bsd patches during the day and
wondering how things could be done differently.  Now I see :)

thanks so much

-jt

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:37 PM,  <geoff@plan9.bell-labs.com> wrote:
> I've just pushed out to sources a new USB implementation, courtesy of
> nemo, who debugged and repaired our old UHCI and OHCI drivers, wrote a
> new EHCI driver for USB 2, converted the user-mode drivers in /bin/usb
> and tested it all, among other things.  Thank you, nemo.
>
> I've updated on sources at least /386/9*load* (though they contain no
> USB code), /386/9pc*, kernel sources, manual pages and a few scripts
> in /rc/bin.  Tomorrow's CD image should incorporate all this.
>
> devusb has a new interface, so it is named #u, to distinguish it from
> the old one, #U.  If usbd is compiled into /boot, /boot/boot will run
> usbd at start up, thus permitting the use of USB keyboards, mice,
> disks, etc. at boot time.
>
>

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[Mathieu L.]

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Brilliant, that will come in handy.
Thanks a lot.

Mathieu


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From: geoff@plan9.bell-labs.com
To: 9fans@9fans.net, nemo@plan9.escet.urjc.es
Subject: [9fans] new usb implementation
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 16:37:39 -0400
Message-ID: <da58cb873ecf992a4ca0d829b9f4275c@plan9.bell-labs.com>

I've just pushed out to sources a new USB implementation, courtesy of
nemo, who debugged and repaired our old UHCI and OHCI drivers, wrote a
new EHCI driver for USB 2, converted the user-mode drivers in /bin/usb
and tested it all, among other things.  Thank you, nemo.

I've updated on sources at least /386/9*load* (though they contain no
USB code), /386/9pc*, kernel sources, manual pages and a few scripts
in /rc/bin.  Tomorrow's CD image should incorporate all this.

devusb has a new interface, so it is named #u, to distinguish it from
the old one, #U.  If usbd is compiled into /boot, /boot/boot will run
usbd at start up, thus permitting the use of USB keyboards, mice,
disks, etc. at boot time.

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[Rudolf Sykora]

Thanks a lot!
Ruda

2009/5/26 Devon H. O'Dell <devon.odell@gmail.com>:
> 2009/5/26  <geoff@plan9.bell-labs.com>:
>> I've just pushed out to sources a new USB implementation, courtesy of
>> nemo, who debugged and repaired our old UHCI and OHCI drivers, wrote a
>> new EHCI driver for USB 2, converted the user-mode drivers in /bin/usb
>> and tested it all, among other things.  Thank you, nemo.
>>
>> I've updated on sources at least /386/9*load* (though they contain no
>> USB code), /386/9pc*, kernel sources, manual pages and a few scripts
>> in /rc/bin.  Tomorrow's CD image should incorporate all this.
>>
>> devusb has a new interface, so it is named #u, to distinguish it from
>> the old one, #U.  If usbd is compiled into /boot, /boot/boot will run
>> usbd at start up, thus permitting the use of USB keyboards, mice,
>> disks, etc. at boot time.
>
> Sweet! Thanks, guys!
>
>

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[Steve Simon]

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This is great news, kudos to all involved.

now, where did I put that memory stick...

-Steve

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From: geoff@plan9.bell-labs.com
To: 9fans@9fans.net, nemo@plan9.escet.urjc.es
Subject: [9fans] new usb implementation
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 16:37:39 -0400
Message-ID: <da58cb873ecf992a4ca0d829b9f4275c@plan9.bell-labs.com>

I've just pushed out to sources a new USB implementation, courtesy of
nemo, who debugged and repaired our old UHCI and OHCI drivers, wrote a
new EHCI driver for USB 2, converted the user-mode drivers in /bin/usb
and tested it all, among other things.  Thank you, nemo.

I've updated on sources at least /386/9*load* (though they contain no
USB code), /386/9pc*, kernel sources, manual pages and a few scripts
in /rc/bin.  Tomorrow's CD image should incorporate all this.

devusb has a new interface, so it is named #u, to distinguish it from
the old one, #U.  If usbd is compiled into /boot, /boot/boot will run
usbd at start up, thus permitting the use of USB keyboards, mice,
disks, etc. at boot time.

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

[Devon H. O'Dell]

2009/5/26  <geoff@plan9.bell-labs.com>:
> I've just pushed out to sources a new USB implementation, courtesy of
> nemo, who debugged and repaired our old UHCI and OHCI drivers, wrote a
> new EHCI driver for USB 2, converted the user-mode drivers in /bin/usb
> and tested it all, among other things.  Thank you, nemo.
>
> I've updated on sources at least /386/9*load* (though they contain no
> USB code), /386/9pc*, kernel sources, manual pages and a few scripts
> in /rc/bin.  Tomorrow's CD image should incorporate all this.
>
> devusb has a new interface, so it is named #u, to distinguish it from
> the old one, #U.  If usbd is compiled into /boot, /boot/boot will run
> usbd at start up, thus permitting the use of USB keyboards, mice,
> disks, etc. at boot time.

Sweet! Thanks, guys!

[9fans] new usb implementation

[geoff]

I've just pushed out to sources a new USB implementation, courtesy of
nemo, who debugged and repaired our old UHCI and OHCI drivers, wrote a
new EHCI driver for USB 2, converted the user-mode drivers in /bin/usb
and tested it all, among other things.  Thank you, nemo.

I've updated on sources at least /386/9*load* (though they contain no
USB code), /386/9pc*, kernel sources, manual pages and a few scripts
in /rc/bin.  Tomorrow's CD image should incorporate all this.

devusb has a new interface, so it is named #u, to distinguish it from
the old one, #U.  If usbd is compiled into /boot, /boot/boot will run
usbd at start up, thus permitting the use of USB keyboards, mice,
disks, etc. at boot time.