From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 References: <50977FDF-8544-41E2-89B7-0369D26C980E@gmail.com> <6D6B26D6-EFC0-4B29-97E7-3DC74A8B1F4C@quintile.net> <56D2E1DC-FA8E-410A-8EBD-7A260AF6FA0B@gmail.com> From: "steve@quintile.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 12:01:39 +0100 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [9fans] Harvey OS: A new OS inspired heavily by Plan 9 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 632c1b3c-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 if there was a way to run apt-get on plan9 and run standard Linux tools, lik= e Firefox and thunderbird, and gcc then I would be a very happy old programm= er. I did some work on extending cinap's amazing linuxemu some years ago but mod= ern Linux has evolved to the point where even this becomes very painful. a b= sdemu might be easier, but I haven't looked into that. just being able to run gcc in arm/thumb cross mode would be great. I know ke= nc will build arm but I need to keep source compatibility with the rest of t= he team, who use gcc - on windows! it is still a battle to keep plan9 running at work, though so far, even if I= haven't won, I haven't lost either. -Steve > On 26 Jul 2015, at 10:35, a.regenfuss@gmx.de wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hm, that looks interesting. I like what that they are trying to make plan 9= a bit > more accessible by using familiar programs and closing the gap between mod= ern unix > and the plan 9 ideas. However, I think I'll rather keep vanilla plan 9 or 9= front > (rio is still better than X11, sorry). > But nontheless, it's a great idea and I hope they keep up the great work. >=20 > adrian > =20 >=20 > Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. Juli 2015 um 00:15 Uhr > Von: "Axel Belinfante" > An: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net> > Betreff: Re: [9fans] Harvey OS: A new OS inspired heavily by Plan 9 >=20 > I couldn=E2=80=99t resist looking, and found in http://www.osnews.com/comm= ents/28699 >=20 > "Harvey is an effort to get the Plan 9 code working with gcc and clang=E2=80= =9D. >=20 > So, in a way it seems to be a port of Plan 9. > More details, including the feature list below, are at http://harvey-os.or= g[http://harvey-os.org] >=20 > Features >=20 > =E2=80=A2 AMD 64 bit > =E2=80=A2 Modern, simplified syscall system > =E2=80=A2 GCC toolchain means you can use gdb(!) > =E2=80=A2 Compile in Linux or OSX using Harvey's headers and libs, no need= to change anything else > =E2=80=A2 Fast compilation of the whole system > =E2=80=A2 All Plan9 userland apps available > =E2=80=A2 Plans to add X11 with rio-like multiplexing, tty driver, new fil= eserver, native toolchain and more >=20 > I=E2=80=99m intrigued by the =E2=80=9Ccompile =E2=80=A6 using Harvey's hea= ders and libs, no need to change anything else=E2=80=9D =E2=80=94 > I guess that means that it will be easy to =E2=80=9Cport=E2=80=9D stuff to= Harvey? >=20 > The team list contains names well-known on this list... >=20 > I must say, it looks quite interesting, worth checking out. >=20 > Axel. > =20 >=20 > On 25 Jul 2015, at 17:58, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:=20 >=20 > No clue. I'm guessing it's heavily inspired by Plan 9. > =20 > On July 25, 2015 3:34:13 AM CDT, "steve@quintile.net[steve@quintile.net]" <= steve@quintile.net[steve@quintile.net]> wrote: > not sure what Harvey is... is it just plan9 ported to build on gcc? > =20 > if so does gcc run under Harvey? >=20 > does gcc run under plan9 now? > =20 > Steve > =20 > =20 > =20 > On 25 Jul 2015, at 01:43, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: > =20 > https://medium.com/this-is-not-a-monad-tutorial/harvey-an-operating-system= -with-plan-9-s-shadow-3081414e5f0b[https://medium.com/this-is-not-a-monad-tu= torial/harvey-an-operating-system-with-plan-9-s-shadow-3081414e5f0b] >=20 > I'm not affiliated with this whatsoever; I just saw it on Reddit and found= it interesting. >=20 > I found this part particularly neat: >=20 >> We are working in ANSI POSIX environment to have most of well known tools= and programs that programmers or end users expects to have in a modern oper= ating system. Things that for traditional Plan 9 would be very difficult to h= ave. >=20 > -- > Sent from my Nexus 5 with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > -- > Sent from my Nexus 5 with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.