From: Pietro Gagliardi <pietro10@mac.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:31:33 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <C8E1B1C8-63A4-4D52-8B08-4BDA62B9023D@mac.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28123FAF-CC00-46FF-A949-C3B89C265C83@mac.com>
Sorry, I forgot to finish my comments:
Wrong on so many levels. Plan 9 lets you Get The Job Done(TM), but in
a completely different way from *your* approach. Plan 9 obeys the UNIX
way: tools that make jobs simpler. This is augmented by 33 libraries
that provide common utilities in a transparent way. "Everything is a
UTF-8 text file or a mountable filesystem, even devices and severs"
encourages transparency of modules: you can copy a file from a Gopher
network in Tokyo to a mobile phone from Mexico or have the filesystem
report how much free space is left without running a million commands
or typing a thousand lines of code. If you are not like that, leave.
On Aug 19, 2008, at 6:25 PM, Pietro Gagliardi wrote:
> On Aug 19, 2008, at 6:00 PM, Eris Discordia wrote:
>
>> That's the gist of responses you've received before this one. I've
>> gone through these 9ish episodes twice. Plan 9 and the related
>> software just isn't for someone who wants to Get Their Job Done
>> (tm). It's a "research" platform for those who want to "tell" other
>> people what they should do and how they should do it and why any
>> other way would be "sacrilege." No wonder it has remained as
>> minuscule and insignificant--9people tell you it's "nimble," don't
>> believe them--as it is after like 24 years of "development."
>
> Wrong on so many levels. Plan 9 lets you Get The Job Done(TM), but
> in a completely different way from *your* approach. Plan 9 obeys the
> UNIX way: tools that make jobs simpler. This is augmented by 33
> libraries that provide common utilities in a transparent way.
> "Everything is a UTF-8 text file or a mountable filesystem, even
> devices and severs" encourages transparency of modules: you can copy
> a file from a Gopher network to a mobile phone or without running a
> million commands. If you are not like that, leave.
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-19 22:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-19 22:00 Eris Discordia
2008-08-19 22:12 ` andrey mirtchovski
2008-08-19 23:14 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 3:12 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-08-20 3:17 ` andrey mirtchovski
2008-08-20 8:31 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-19 22:14 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2008-08-19 22:26 ` Steve Simon
2008-08-19 23:27 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-19 23:36 ` Jonathan Cast
2008-08-20 0:42 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 2:08 ` a
2008-08-20 8:06 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 3:26 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-08-20 3:31 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-08-20 8:41 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-19 22:25 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-19 22:31 ` Pietro Gagliardi [this message]
2008-08-19 22:46 ` Federico G. Benavento
2008-08-20 0:31 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-19 23:03 ` Benjamin Huntsman
2008-08-20 0:34 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 0:58 ` Benjamin Huntsman
2008-08-19 22:34 ` erik quanstrom
2008-08-20 3:11 ` Skip Tavakkolian
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-08-24 17:13 Eris Discordia
2008-08-25 3:57 ` Michaelian Ennis
2008-08-24 16:52 Eris Discordia
2008-08-24 8:20 erik quanstrom
2008-08-21 17:36 Eris Discordia
2008-08-21 20:39 ` ron minnich
2008-08-21 22:11 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-22 2:58 ` Federico G. Benavento
2008-08-22 6:13 ` Andrew Simmons
2008-08-22 9:41 ` hiro
2008-08-21 17:20 Eris Discordia
2008-08-21 16:39 Eris Discordia
2008-08-21 17:11 ` ron minnich
2008-08-21 18:29 ` hiro
2008-08-20 23:49 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 21:46 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 22:41 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20 23:15 ` Geoffrey Avila
2008-08-21 7:42 ` Uriel
2008-08-21 10:58 ` erik quanstrom
2008-08-21 13:25 ` john
2008-08-21 13:31 ` David Leimbach
2008-08-21 16:59 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-21 17:14 ` ron minnich
2008-08-21 10:36 ` erik quanstrom
2008-08-20 13:01 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 13:22 ` Sander van Dijk
2008-08-20 12:56 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 18:08 ` sqweek
2008-08-20 18:58 ` erik quanstrom
2008-08-20 19:47 ` sqweek
2008-08-20 12:36 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 9:44 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 9:34 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 11:56 ` Robert William Fuller
2008-08-20 12:25 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 9:03 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 8:33 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 8:29 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 8:04 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 1:39 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 2:08 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20 2:13 ` Iruata Souza
2008-08-20 8:08 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 5:02 ` sqweek
2008-08-20 9:15 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 9:44 ` Sander van Dijk
2008-08-20 9:53 ` sqweek
2008-08-20 10:12 ` matt
2008-08-20 12:27 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-08-20 16:23 ` Iruata Souza
2008-08-20 8:10 ` Steve Simon
2008-08-20 0:30 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 3:34 ` geoff
2008-08-20 3:43 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20 3:48 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-08-20 8:42 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 0:10 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 2:29 ` a
2008-08-20 8:01 ` Steve Simon
2008-08-19 23:51 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 0:30 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20 1:31 ` Iruata Souza
2008-08-20 1:43 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 2:00 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20 7:03 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 7:36 ` bb
2008-08-21 0:03 ` Dan Cross
2008-08-24 7:27 ` John Waters
2008-08-24 18:14 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-25 5:43 ` John Waters
2008-08-19 15:52 Wendell xe
2008-08-19 16:01 ` ron minnich
2008-08-19 16:11 ` erik quanstrom
2008-08-19 21:23 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2008-08-19 16:31 ` Robert Raschke
2008-08-19 21:00 ` Steve Simon
2008-08-19 17:50 ` Ramon de Vera
2008-08-19 17:58 ` Russ Cox
2008-10-22 12:37 ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-23 18:26 ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-23 20:17 ` yy
2008-10-24 17:51 ` Russ Cox
2008-10-24 18:17 ` Rudolf Sykora
2009-04-05 16:19 ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-08-19 20:22 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-19 21:24 ` Iruata Souza
2008-08-20 0:28 ` David Leimbach
2008-08-20 3:54 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20 3:56 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-08-20 8:48 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 9:21 ` matt
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