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boundary="0000000000008b05d2059bdae3c9" Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: fa4fb78e-345e-11ea-bb79-ac461b5ab8cd --0000000000008b05d2059bdae3c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i'm sorry, what? lack of TLS? go read 9front's tlssrv(8). it's been there for a while already. -rodri On Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 11:32 AM Steve Simon wrote: > > fyi i have been running a fossil/venti pair since 2004 and it has been > solid. > > what is too big - honest question. > > i thought the biggest issues are: > > performance - the elegance and generality sacrifice some performance, > though this is not a problem for me. > > lack of a tls fs interface - there is (imho) no excuse for a lack of tls > these days. > > no way for a user in (say) the ventidump group to request an immediate > dump - handy for checkpointing a code release, though justing copying the > release to a new dir is ok. > > no way to push a vac score into the /archive hierarchy - nice for > migrating in other backups. > > all these are fixable and on my todo list but none have happened. > > > On 10 Jan 2020, at 9:37 pm, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > =EF=BB=BF > >> > >> The major fly in the ointment is the outdated sha1 hash function used > by venti > > > > major? fly? there's no problem with how sha1 is used by venti right now= . > > > > a more substantial complaint would be that the venti/fossil system is > > way too big. > > ------------------------------------------ > 9fans: 9fans > Permalink: > https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Ta5071137bc09d294-M7a56202f84a795= cc3e7d9a1e > Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription > --0000000000008b05d2059bdae3c9 Content-Type: text/html; 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i'm sorry, what? lack of TLS?

go read 9front's tlssrv(8). it's been there f= or a while already.


=
-rodri

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 11:32 AM Steve Si= mon <steve@quintile.net> wr= ote:

fyi i have been running a fossil/venti pair since 2004 and it has been soli= d.

what is too big - honest question.

i thought the biggest issues are:

performance - the elegance and generality sacrifice some performance, thoug= h this is not a problem for me.

=C2=A0lack of a tls fs interface - there is (imho) no excuse for a lack of = tls these days.

no way for a user in (say) the ventidump group to request an immediate dump= - handy for checkpointing a code release, though justing copying the relea= se to a new dir is ok.

no way to push a vac score into the /archive hierarchy - nice for migrating= in other backups.

all these are fixable and on my todo list but none have happened.

> On 10 Jan 2020, at 9:37 pm, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
>>
>> The major fly in the ointment is the outdated sha1 hash function u= sed by venti
>
> major? fly? there's no problem with how sha1 is used by venti righ= t now.
>
> a more substantial complaint would be that the venti/fossil system is<= br> > way too big.

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