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boundary="00000000000001c282059be24f2c" Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 2c6d7040-34a9-11ea-99e6-8a6a02591c77 --00000000000001c282059be24f2c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes that's right. On Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 4:57 PM Steve Simon wrote: > > using tlssrv is an option, as is import, but what was saying it fossil=E2= =80=99s > native 9p server does not support tls, which it doesn't - i dont believe > anyone has added it. > > the issue is 9boot would need tls to be able download the kernel from a > file server and it doesn=E2=80=99t have it. this is the labs boot procedu= re of > course. > > 9front booting uses a full kernel to bootstrap (correct me if i am wrong) > so tls is not a problem there. > > anyway, fossil does not have tls and i would like to have. such a change > would mean changes to the labs distro boot proceedure > > -Steve > > > On 11 Jan 2020, at 10:42 am, Rodrigo G. L=C3=B3pez > wrote: > > =EF=BB=BF > i'm sorry, what? lack of TLS? > > go read 9front's tlssrv(8). it's been there for a while already. > > > -rodri > > On Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 11:32 AM Steve Simon wrote: > >> >> fyi i have been running a fossil/venti pair since 2004 and it has been >> solid. >> >> what is too big - honest question. >> >> i thought the biggest issues are: >> >> performance - the elegance and generality sacrifice some performance, >> though this is not a problem for me. >> >> lack of a tls fs interface - there is (imho) no excuse for a lack of tl= s >> these days. >> >> no way for a user in (say) the ventidump group to request an immediate >> dump - handy for checkpointing a code release, though justing copying th= e >> release to a new dir is ok. >> >> no way to push a vac score into the /archive hierarchy - nice for >> migrating in other backups. >> >> all these are fixable and on my todo list but none have happened. >> >> > On 10 Jan 2020, at 9:37 pm, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > =EF=BB=BF >> >> >> >> The major fly in the ointment is the outdated sha1 hash function used >> by venti >> > >> > major? fly? there's no problem with how sha1 is used by venti right no= w. >> > >> > a more substantial complaint would be that the venti/fossil system is >> > way too big. >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> 9fans: 9fans >> Permalink: >> https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Ta5071137bc09d294-M7a56202f84a79= 5cc3e7d9a1e >> Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription >> > *9fans * / 9fans / see discussions > + participants > + delivery options > Permalink > > --00000000000001c282059be24f2c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
yes that's right.

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 4:57 PM Steve = Simon <steve@quintile.net> = wrote:

using tlssrv is an option, as is import= , but what was saying it fossil=E2=80=99s native 9p server does not support= tls, which it doesn't - i dont believe anyone has added it.

the issue is 9boot would need tls to= be able download the kernel from a file server and it doesn=E2=80=99t have= it. this is the labs boot procedure of course.

<= /div>
9front booting uses a full kernel to bootstrap (corre= ct me if i am wrong) so tls is not a problem there.
<= br>
anyway, fossil does not have tls and i would like= to have. such a change would mean changes to the labs distro boot proceedu= re

-Steve


On 11 Jan 20= 20, at 10:42 am, Rodrigo G. L=C3=B3pez <rodrigosloop@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
i'm sorry, what? lack of TLS?

go read 9front's tlssrv(8). it's been there f= or a while already.


=
-rodri

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 11:32 AM Steve Si= mon <steve@quintile.net> wrote:

fyi i have been running a fossil/venti pair since 2004 and it has been soli= d.

what is too big - honest question.

i thought the biggest issues are:

performance - the elegance and generality sacrifice some performance, thoug= h this is not a problem for me.

=C2=A0lack of a tls fs interface - there is (imho) no excuse for a lack of = tls these days.

no way for a user in (say) the ventidump group to request an immediate dump= - handy for checkpointing a code release, though justing copying the relea= se to a new dir is ok.

no way to push a vac score into the /archive hierarchy - nice for migrating= in other backups.

all these are fixable and on my todo list but none have happened.

> On 10 Jan 2020, at 9:37 pm, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com>= wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
>>
>> The major fly in the ointment is the outdated sha1 hash function u= sed by venti
>
> major? fly? there's no problem with how sha1 is used by venti righ= t now.
>
> a more substantial complaint would be that the venti/fossil system is<= br> > way too big.

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