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From: fgergo@gmail.com
To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] 9p server to multiply 9p messages?
Date: Sun, 29 May 2022 12:33:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+ctqrpFmkqe6R97hJr6N=8vW51SJkG0pVDP6dgJetFhwrNpsQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP6exYK09DVaEu91VWbvKu34zWMqG+K_KrmL=gTw-RwJBjYQdQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks yes, this would be one use-case.

On 5/28/22, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
> not for 9p, but in 1993, when Gene Kim interned with me at the
> Supercomputing Research Center, we did this:
> https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Bigfoot-NFS-%3A-A-Parallel-File-Striping-NFS-Server-(-Kim/19cb61337bab7b4de856fcbf29b55965647be091,
> similar in spirit to your idea.
>
> The core idea was that we distributed the files over the set of
> servers, and replicated directory trees to avoid the usual troubles:
> we did not want to implement a metadata server. So each NFS request
> was fanned out to 32 machines, vector rpc style, and because the
> networks of that time were so slow, it was not that much slower than
> you'd expect.
>
> It worked, it gave us what was at the time a really big NFS server,
> the paper got rejected twice at usenix, the original full paper is
> long lost, the code? probably lost too.
>
> It was available from super.org in 1993, but ... that's not on the
> wayback machine.
>
> On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 11:45 AM Skip Tavakkolian
> <skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting idea!
>>
>> This assumes the downstream servers have identical namespace hierarchy;
>> right?
>>
>> State management could be messy or impossible unless some sort of
>> transaction structure is imposed on the {walk, [open/create,
>> read/write]|[stat/wstat], clunk} sequences, where the server that
>> replies to walk first, gets that transaction.
>>
>> On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 9:04 AM <fgergo@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Has anybody considered (or maybe even implemented) a 9p server to
>> > multiply incoming 9p messages to 2 or more 9p servers?
>> > Maybe with 2 different strategies for responding to the original
>> > request?
>> > 1. respond as soon as at least 1 response from one of the 9p servers
>> > is received,
>> > 2. respond only after all responses had been received.
>> > thanks!

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-29 10:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-28 16:02 fgergo
2022-05-28 18:43 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2022-05-28 19:21   ` ron minnich
2022-05-29 10:33     ` fgergo [this message]
2022-05-29 10:23   ` fgergo
2022-05-29 11:41     ` fgergo
2022-05-29 23:16 ` Bakul Shah
2022-05-30  4:59   ` ori
2022-05-30  7:19     ` Bakul Shah
2022-05-30  8:03       ` fgergo
2022-05-30  8:35       ` hiro
2022-05-31 16:14       ` ron minnich
2022-05-31 18:27         ` hiro
2022-05-31 18:35           ` ori
2022-06-01 12:00           ` ron minnich
2022-06-01 14:51             ` ori
2022-06-01 15:31             ` hiro
2022-06-01 15:39               ` hiro
2022-06-01 16:01             ` ori
2022-06-01  4:26         ` Bakul Shah
2022-06-01  7:25           ` hiro
2022-06-01 15:55           ` Jacob Moody
2022-06-01 17:56             ` Steve Simon
2022-06-01 22:29               ` hiro
2022-05-30  8:33     ` hiro

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