From: fgergo@gmail.com
To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] 9p server to multiply 9p messages?
Date: Mon, 30 May 2022 10:03:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+ctqrq_FJkUMF67Bx2yqvdSxzuFaUZCnh9-xS32s-1hOzq9WA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <548D3C1F-DFCC-4DCE-AB37-3CA48997AE69@iitbombay.org>
On 5/30/22, Bakul Shah <bakul@iitbombay.org> wrote:
> On May 29, 2022, at 10:01 PM, ori@eigenstate.org wrote:
>>
>> the challenge is that 9p is stateful, so all servers must
>> replay the same messages in the same order; this means that
>> if one of the replicas fails or returns a result that is not
>> the same as the other, the front falls off.
>>
>> this means mirroring messages naïvely reduces reliability
>> and performance, rather than increasing it.
>
> I was not thinking of mirroring.
>
> I was thinking of ckustered or distributed systems like
> CephFS, IPFS, GlusterFS etc but thinking a cleaner &
> simpler design might be possible. But it is quite possible
> my brainstorm/pipedream is not realistic!
>
Besides the trivial applications (eg. mirroring with an out-of-band
consolidation mechanism), I've been thinking more along these lines as
well. Sure, for these applications multiplying would be just a basic
function, and other, more interesting 9p servers would manipulate the
namespaces of the different 9p servers, serving different parts of the
"goal-namespace".
A 9p multiplier would be just the first lego brick.
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Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-28 16:02 fgergo
2022-05-28 18:43 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2022-05-28 19:21 ` ron minnich
2022-05-29 10:33 ` fgergo
2022-05-29 10:23 ` fgergo
2022-05-29 11:41 ` fgergo
2022-05-29 23:16 ` Bakul Shah
2022-05-30 4:59 ` ori
2022-05-30 7:19 ` Bakul Shah
2022-05-30 8:03 ` fgergo [this message]
2022-05-30 8:35 ` hiro
2022-05-31 16:14 ` ron minnich
2022-05-31 18:27 ` hiro
2022-05-31 18:35 ` ori
2022-06-01 12:00 ` ron minnich
2022-06-01 14:51 ` ori
2022-06-01 15:31 ` hiro
2022-06-01 15:39 ` hiro
2022-06-01 16:01 ` ori
2022-06-01 4:26 ` Bakul Shah
2022-06-01 7:25 ` hiro
2022-06-01 15:55 ` Jacob Moody
2022-06-01 17:56 ` Steve Simon
2022-06-01 22:29 ` hiro
2022-05-30 8:33 ` hiro
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