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Mon, 30 May 2022 01:03:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6408:e9:b0:180:187:c58b with HTTP; Mon, 30 May 2022 01:03:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <548D3C1F-DFCC-4DCE-AB37-3CA48997AE69@iitbombay.org> References: <548D3C1F-DFCC-4DCE-AB37-3CA48997AE69@iitbombay.org> From: fgergo@gmail.com Date: Mon, 30 May 2022 10:03:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9fans] 9p server to multiply 9p messages? To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: f34f60ae-dfee-11ec-a1c5-e7ef42341f33 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UNzY5ODU0ZmFmZDJiN2QzNS1NZWQ1MmQwOThjNWVkZjQxNGI4ZDE1?= =?UTF-8?B?MGJhPg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Med52d098c5edf414b8d150ba:1:94FKRA4xI2M_nxRc2hAk4Hnf_RJ5RXih8735Rth7rSA On 5/30/22, Bakul Shah wrote: > On May 29, 2022, at 10:01 PM, ori@eigenstate.org wrote: >> >> the challenge is that 9p is stateful, so all servers must >> replay the same messages in the same order; this means that >> if one of the replicas fails or returns a result that is not >> the same as the other, the front falls off. >> >> this means mirroring messages na=C3=AFvely reduces reliability >> and performance, rather than increasing it. > > I was not thinking of mirroring. > > I was thinking of ckustered or distributed systems like > CephFS, IPFS, GlusterFS etc but thinking a cleaner & > simpler design might be possible. But it is quite possible > my brainstorm/pipedream is not realistic! > Besides the trivial applications (eg. mirroring with an out-of-band consolidation mechanism), I've been thinking more along these lines as well. Sure, for these applications multiplying would be just a basic function, and other, more interesting 9p servers would manipulate the namespaces of the different 9p servers, serving different parts of the "goal-namespace". A 9p multiplier would be just the first lego brick. ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T769854fafd2b7d35-Med52d= 098c5edf414b8d150ba Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription