From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6aa908ea-da18-620a-e214-e458d216785f@me.com> References: <0c0703721c476ad3658d0bfbd6f7c5b4@ladd.quanstro.net> <6aa908ea-da18-620a-e214-e458d216785f@me.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:08:31 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jacob Todd To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93406457b2d4c04bb9fcc18 Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 rejected from GSoC 2012 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6ba86c9a-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --14dae93406457b2d4c04bb9fcc18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark V. Shaney, is that you? On Mar 19, 2012 3:54 PM, "Christoph Paschke" wrote: > >> and last i checked government or meta-government support > Ok, I do another example and maybe I'm a stupid German and I have lost th= e > "just for fun" idea. > > I see that more and more people get already VERY (and announcement is on > VERY!) angry about all this chaos around. > I give you an example that can understand. If the electric socket would b= e > invented today, what you believe how much of this electric plug typs woul= d > exist. I compare it with CARD-Readers. 100:1 ??? Yes sure, we would have > 100:1 electric plugs today if they would have been invented today. > > You not understand that people get > > ANGRY ABOUT THAT MEGA-SHIT???? > > This is only one example. There are still more like electric loading of > mobile phones and inkjet cartridges in 1000 variants. Do you really think > people here in Europe find such things FUNNY? THEY HATE ALREADY WITHOUT > END. They not want this 1000 + 1 shit anymore. > > What is Mini-X? It's already like: I LIKE THE MINIMUM TO WORK, JUST TO > WORK AND NOTHING ELSE. > > Here some company chiefs already saying: We get back to engrave our > e-Mails in stone if this goes forward such way. > > This is for you not understandable that people already get crazy at this > endless chaos??? > > So, Prof. Tanenbaum is going to win here in Europe because this global > chaos becoming endless, unbelievable, intolerable. > > So, is such a demand for a more unique system in Europe idiotic? > > HOW ELECTRIC SOCKETS where made, from chaos brothers where each one only > think of their own interests and ways of earning money? I not know, but > maybe in NOT EU countries they like this chaos. Here, already people tire= d > from that chaos and therefore Minix have a very good chance together with > governmental support. > > I not against Plan 9, I only want to explain here why a German as an EU > member not so far from sympathize with the Netherland concept of Prof. > Tanenbaum. And this is what he already says since years: This modern > systems are not to get handled anymore: to complex, cannot be overseen > anymore. As I remember he already gave a price in former time for somebod= y > who can explain him the Windows XP-system.Nobody tried it, because CAN NO= T! > At the current state his statement seams to be true, that NOBODY AT THE > WHOLE WORLD IS ABLE to explain the XP-system at whole. So, if someone her= e > think he can explain him, do so. It's not difficult to come in contact wi= th > him at minix3.org. I think he is until today waiting for somebody who can > tell him. > > So, you understand what might be the background for the interest in MINI-= X > here in Europe? > > And at the moment, I would say, the chances are high, that this will work= . > The companies have all the same problem: Unbelievable chaos in IT > everywhere that they already get crazy on. It is not only lobbyism that > stands behind Mini-X, it's some more interests in stability, > understandability etc. that got lost in the other operating systems in th= e > last decade. > > Am 19. M=C3=A4rz 2012 um 17:30 schrieb erik quanstrom : > > > If your choice on Minix is because it is backed by E.U., you should > > question how long E.U. will last... > > silly me, i choose operating systems based on technical merit. > and last i checked government or meta-government support > is not an indicator of technical merit in solving my problems. > > - erik > > --14dae93406457b2d4c04bb9fcc18 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mark V. Shaney, is that you?

On Mar 19, 2012 3:54 PM, "Christoph Paschke= " <c.paschke@me.com> wro= te:
&g= t;> and last i checked government or meta-government support
Ok, I do another= example and maybe I'm a stupid German and I have lost the "just f= or fun" idea.

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I see that more a= nd more people get already VERY (and announcement is on VERY!) angry about = all this chaos around.
I give you an exa= mple that can understand. If the electric socket would be invented today, w= hat you believe how much of this electric plug typs would exist. I compare = it with CARD-Readers. 100:1 ??? Yes sure, we would have 100:1 electric plug= s today if they would have been invented today.

=
You not understan= d that people get

ANGRY ABOUT THAT MEGA-SHIT????

This is only one example. There are still more like electric loading = of mobile phones and inkjet cartridges in 1000 variants. Do you really thin= k people here in Europe find such things FUNNY? THEY HATE ALREADY WITHOUT E= ND. They not want this 1000 + 1 shit anymore.

What is Mini-X? It's already like: I LIKE THE MINIMUM TO WORK, JUST = TO WORK AND NOTHING ELSE.

Here some company chiefs already saying: We get back to engrave our e-Ma= ils in stone if this goes forward such way.

This is for you not understandable that people already get crazy at this= endless chaos???

So, Prof. Tanenbaum is going to win here in Europe because this global c= haos becoming endless, unbelievable, intolerable.

So, is such a demand for a more unique system in Europe idiotic?<= /div>

HOW ELECTRIC SOCKETS where made, from chaos brothers where each one only= think of their own interests and ways of earning money? I not know, but ma= ybe in NOT EU countries they like this chaos. Here, already people tired fr= om that chaos and therefore Minix have a very good chance together with gov= ernmental support.

I not against Plan 9, I only want to explain here why a German as an EU = member not so far from sympathize with the Netherland concept of Prof. Tane= nbaum. And this is what he already says since years: This modern systems ar= e not to get handled anymore: to complex, cannot be overseen anymore. As I = remember he already gave a price in former time for somebody who can explai= n him the Windows XP-system.Nobody tried it, because CAN NOT! At the curren= t state his statement seams to be true, that NOBODY AT THE WHOLE WORLD IS A= BLE to explain the XP-system at whole. So, if someone here think he can exp= lain him, do so. It's not difficult to come in contact with him at minix3.org. I think he is u= ntil today waiting for somebody who can tell him.

So,= you understand what might be the background for the interest in MINI-X her= e in Europe?

And = at the moment, I would say, the chances are high, that this will work. The = companies have all the same problem: Unbelievable chaos in IT everywhere th= at they already get crazy on. It is not only lobbyism that stands behind Mi= ni-X, it's some more interests in stability, understandability etc. tha= t got lost in the other operating systems in the last decade.

Am 19. M=C3=A4rz 2012 um 17:30 schrieb erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>:

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