From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: iru.muzgo@gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Iruat=C3=A3_Souza?=) Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 17:39:31 -0200 Subject: [9fans] 9vx instability In-Reply-To: References: <82af4df383dbdfc93944531f9ce11494@gmx.de> <0f3ffa2580853f43a31188a801994e3c@brasstown.quanstro.net> Message-ID: Topicbox-Message-UUID: 48a944c6-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 I like some of the fun in 9front, /lib/theo in special, and I dislike the idea of having the US constitution in /lib. But my point is that I think it is a little bit too much having Mein Kampf in there. It seems to me some people needed attention and adding such a disgusting text to the tree was the obvious way to get it. As was pointed out, people need to grow up, and I should add that one should only make jokes that one can sustain outside the internet. As a mostly silent contributor to 9front, I think we have interesting technical stuff to put forth and that kind of 'look how I am controversial' game is not one of them. On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > this reasoning is so ridiculous that i have to believe you're trolling. > > the U.S. Constitution has been the foundation for the rule of law in > this country for 200+ years, and the Gettysburg address honored the > fallen and the ideals -- equality for all men -- that they died for. > why would anyone think that racist propaganda or hate speech should > have equal space in /lib? > > some 70 million people were killed during WWII, partly because some > people believed the propaganda that is Mein Kampf. there's nothing > funny about that. > > please, grow up! > > -Skip > > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Jacob Todd wrote: >> The constitution and the gettysburg address are in there, too. >> >> On Nov 26, 2011 6:51 PM, "erik quanstrom" wrote: >>> >>> > 9front seems to me to define itself as: having fun while getting >>> > useful stuff done. With an emphasis in *fun* and in not taking >>> > anything too seriously, while one the technical side favoring >>> > simplicity and things that work. >>> > >>> > This might not be exactly the same original Plan 9 values, but seems >>> > close enough. Of course in 9front there is also an element of trolling >>> > and poking fun at itself and anything else, and I will be happy if >>> > cat-v.org takes the blame for that. >>> > >>> > > ?to be honest, it's one of the reasons i've stopped following 9front. >>> > > >>> > > to paraphrase a saying in mathematics, it's not enough to be good >>> > > you must also be humble. ?why do you think dennis' ideas took >>> > > over? >>> > >>> > I think an important form of humility is not taking yourself too >>> > seriously. For an example of this see Dennis' Anti-Foreword to The >>> > UNIX-HATERS Handbook: http://simson.net/ref/ugh.pdf >>> > >>> > 9front can't claim to reach such exquisite levels of "seriousness", >>> > but it tries. >>> > >>> > I suspect one of the reasons why 9front exists is because some people >>> > in the Plan 9 community this days seem to take themselves and the >>> > whole project a bit too seriously. >>> > >>> > Which is kind of weird for a project called after an Ed Wood film. >>> >>> uriel, what you say would make sense if the "jokes" didn't include putting >>> mein kampf in /lib. >>> >>> - erik >>> >> > >